Mayweather/McGregor Fight Discussion

First of all, you are humorless. How are you going to get a girl if you can't even laugh?

Come on, man.

Secondly, I could say the same thing about you not taking a ban bet. It's okay for us to have differing opinions. I have no idea why you spit so much vitriol towards me. I thought it was America. Am I not allowed to have a different opinion than you?

Like I said, come on, man.

Just make sure you do one thing for me.

Tune in, August 26th.

 

I wouldn't let this get to you. It's mental warfare. It's all part of the game. The fact that McGregor responded to it, is actually a sign of weakness to his opponent. It planted a seed of doubt.

Of course, it could backfire and cause McGregor to be more focused and more intent on doing everything he can to knock Mayweather out, but it could also cause him to be so angry that he uses up all of his energy.

It's all part of the game. It's dirty, but the thing is, a lot of people feel like it's boxing vs MMA, so the boxing community is going to respond in such a way to attempt to lower McGregor's chances anyway they can.

 

Conor didn't help himself by denouncing boxing as "half a fight" and saying it was "easy" and all the rest of it.

Well... he can shut everyone up on August 26th... or the mocking may well continue for some time yet...

 

It's actually quite difficult to work the body against a rangy southpaw that is good at controlling distance. Typically, you throw right straights to the body, but McGregor has shown that he is quick on his feet and explosive. That uppercut that for some reason everyone was making fun of might be the punch that hurts Mayweather, as it could be a counter to a right straight body shot.

I feel like the best way to beat a rangy southpaw is to out southpaw them or to turn southpaw, so you can minimize the affect of their reach, IF you know how to close distance. That way, you can take away that awkward range that makes it difficult to attack.

Pacquaio is very explosive, but he really didn't have much success landing body shots on Mayweather unless he was up close because the opposite is true too. If you have an orthodox stance fighter that is rangy and good at controlling distance, it makes it difficult for a southpaw to go to their body.

Mayweather is not really an explosive fighter in the way that Pacquaio is, and McGregor gets most of his knockouts it seems on counterpunches where his opponent is wreckless, so it will be harder to go to the body than people think. I've telling people, this is not an easy fight.

 

I agree, but outside of the **** talk, in reality, he does have a tremendous amount of respect for boxing. Listen to his interview after his open workout. He sounds rational.

 

Just goes to show how powerful both the media and Conor's mouth actually is. If you repeat something often enough, it can become true even if it is not founded on any sound basis.

The same thing about this 'one punch power' drivel we keep hearing when the fact is, he only knocked out Aldo with one punch because he rushed in recklessly and left his chin hanging in the air.

Every other fight in the UFC he has taken him a barrage of punches to completely deck his man which is why he isn't knocking out guys in sparring. Something which even Mayweather has managed to do.

Let's also ignore the fact that Conor has made a career out of fighting men significantly smaller than him. Conor
weighs naturally 170lbs at 5'9 yet competes in the 140lb weight class with men who's height averages 5'7. He then has has zero title defenses yet he thinks he's the greatest and his fans pretend he's this untouchable fighter who is good enough to bring something new to the table in boxing. A sport he wasn't good enough to compete at professionally yet thinks he can beat the best man in another sport.

All the promotion, hype, trash talking and 'showbiz' side of things has masked the fact that Conor genuinely won't do anything the entire fight. Floyd has seen everything and it'll be just another Floyd fight with Mcgreogr leaning into pull back counters, getting frustrated and looking out of his depth before getting stopped, with both men hugging eachother at the end as if they were life long friends.

 

I appreciate your concern but I'm glad Conor responded to explain exactly why he was doing those very interesting arm and shoulder movements. It's just another example of the limited training techniques available in boxing. Since it was outside boxing's traditional training method it was misunderstood. You would think by now they would realize Conor is a artist savant and would quit undermining him. Those boxers just ended up looking like envious children as a result of their ignorance.

 

I feel like I could go to every Mayweather v __________ discussion thread on the internet and see the same types of posts, regardless of who he's fighting.

The Mayweather is a little older, a little slower posts.
The "insert boxer" is the wrong style of boxer for Mayweather posts.
The "insert boxer" is going to attack Mayweather because he has nothing to lose posts.
The "insert boxer" is a southpaw so he's going to give Mayweather trouble posts.

And (basically) every time, that sneaky, crafty sonofagun had fans booing or silent by the 10th round because he's human hype vacuum. He sucks all of the energy and excitement out of everything because he's mastered what some believe to be the most chicken ****, boring style of winning boxing matches.

As you can tell, I'm very new to boxing. Before this fight was announced, I was actually more of an MMA fan. Basically a hardcore-casual. I know a lot more than the run of the mill casual fan, but I'm more likely to watch the fight the next day on Youtube and then listen to 7 hours of analysis about the fight than to shell out the money to buy it.

But when this fight was announced, I figured I might as well watch Mayweather's last 10 or so fights to get an accurate opinion on the man. I'm not gonna say "Conor has no chance! He's an MMA fighter, fighting arguably the best boxer of the past 20 years!" I wanted to actually experience what Mayweather was all about. Since all I've heard my whole life is that he's a conman who does nothing but run because he's too much of a pansy to actually sit and box like a real man. And I understand that. Someone like Floyd could never be my favorite boxer, because I have a natural preference for the guys that like to sit and bang. My favorite UFC fighter by a massive margin is Cowboy Cerrone, and if you know MMA/UFC, that's what he does. He goes to war for 15 minutes and whether he wins or loses, he likely put on a show.

I should preface that I had prior knowledge of boxing. Even though I had never watched a fight live until 3 weeks ago. I'm one of those "knows a little about a lot" douches. So I had a solid bit of knowledge about boxing before the last 3 months. My stepdad was a massive boxing fan. His guys were primarily Roy Jones and Floyd. I can actually remember watching the Floyd/Hatton all access or 24/7.

In watching Floyd's last decade of fights (and a lot of the all access), I see a guy that, like I said, is a Hype Vacuum in human form. He's so immensely talented at what he does that by the time the fights over, people have convinced themselves that his opponent never had a real shot anyway, even though before the fight, the same questions and predictions that have littered this thread and promotion were present for those fights, too.

I also don't find his fights boring. True, I never paid for them and I COMPLETELY understand why people would be pissed to pay a ton of money for a fight that seems over by the 9th round and didn't have a ton of action leading up to that, either. But I'm pretty entertained by him. I don't see a runner, I see a super computer that boxes.

To be honest, I wouldn't pick any boxer in the world (and obviously, around his weight class) to flat out beat Floyd until someone magically does it. And I'm definitely not gonna pick Conor.

To sum this long winded mess of a first post up, I think I've fallen a little bit in love with the sport. I think I like it more than UFC, to be honest.

 

BUT DAT LEFT HAND DOE!

 

You'll soon ****ing hate it, trust me.

But welcome aboard all the same.

 

Are you talking out of your arse right now? The best way to beat a southpaw is to set up the straight right. And who has one of the best straight rights in the game?

Southpaws typically have trouble with other southpaws for the same reason that orthodox fighters do, they're just not that common.

And this whole harder to hit southpaws to the body... Southpaws lead with their liver making it way easier (quicker) to land the left to the body.

I know you've watched enough mayweather fights to know he JABS to the body a lot. That punch, and maybe the introduction of a left hook to the body as well (he usually has a sweeping right hook to the body) could lead to a long night for McGregor.

 

Can't wait til its over so we never have to hear of it again

 

I loff it!

 

If only.....

 

I watched a video where Andre Berto was explaining how highly attuned, how focused Floyd was during their fight and how his level of awareness was on another level.

I just hope he is aware of the unique angles the master of distance & movement Conor McGregor will be firing from.