How hard did Max Baer hit

How can you guarantee it?

 

I cant literally guarantee it, but the idea is so far fetched that it doesn't merit serious consideration, unless some blinding new evidence emerges.

 

What's far fetched about it? Both men are around the same size, both swing for the fences, Huck looks to have more explosiveness and speed. Hence my opinion.

 

The difference in the results that they obtained.

Please tell me that you don't think that two fighters being of a similar size, and having a similar style, correlates to them likely hitting as hard as each other!

 

What does Max do that leads you to believe he hits harder? Power isn't some mythical elusive quality that graces some fighters and leaves others untouched, despite long standing belief to the contrary. If a fighter is big enough, strong enough and fast enough then more than likely they hit hard enough as well.

Huck had a right hand from hell and launched his whole soul into it every time he threw. That's a six two, 210lb man launching his fist at your chin with meanest intentions. Why wouldn't he do serious damage with that shot if he landed?

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Look at the right hand Huck throws at the 2:00 minute mark and tell me how a fighter wrings more out of a shot than that.

 

Hard to take this post seriously.
The punch you're referring to is not that powerful compared to boxers best punchers.

The right hand Baer landed on Schmeling is a real bomb, not that Huck punch from 2:00 that doesn't seem to have any big physical impact on the opponent. It's not even a properly leveraged, thrown, or connected shot.

Baer created a waterworks show with Schmelings sweat when he landed his overhand right. He was far more of a dynamic puncher who could throw deadly punches from various angles and scenarios.

Size has about much to do with punching technique as it does for throwing a baseball.

I'm sorry, but it sounds like you are suckered in by the flash and pizazz of modern cameras and fail to see things as they actually are.

 

Foreman was damn good at cutting the ring off, hence why he could unload many of his wind breaking punches.

 

Yes, it basically is.

Power is a neuromuscular thing.

You are either born with it or you are not.

There is nothing about a fighters size, build, or manner of throwing punches, that will tell you how hard they hit.

If you don't understand this, then you are still well down the learning curve!

 

It's a beastly shot, thrown with full extension and weight transference. Like I asked Janitor, what more can a fighter do to wring more power out of the shot than that?

It doesn't connect but I never said it did. I pointed it out because it was the most savage of numerous savage right hands Huck threw in that fight. You can see the effect of the landed ones elsewhere in the video.

Wanna see sweat fly? Type in Huck vs Afolabi and search images. There are plenty of stills.

And it sounds like you're utterly blinded by old school nostalgia and can't see things with open eyes.

Of course size doesn't have anything to do with punching technique. Who said it did?

 

No it's not, and old school BS like this is what makes debating on here so mind-bendingly frustrating.

Huck is basically the same size as Baer, with similar dimensions and a similar build. Except he's faster than Baer and more aggressive when he throws. So why shouldn't he punch harder too? Explain to me what neuromuscular factors put Baer ahead of him.

 

Because there are more important attributes that dictate power, such as weight transfer and shoulder snap.

Of course you're talking to a group of people who find this information elementary.

 

You telling me Huck doesn't have those in spades? Hell, have you even watched him fight? The man's all shoulder snap and weight transference. That's literally his primary method of power generation.

I'll ignore your snarky little comment afterwards, because frankly, considering the above, it just makes you look like a fool.

 

Baer could hit like a hammer with his right. However Arcel trained Baer for a time and he was asked how Bears right hand compared with Dempseys. Arcel, who watched Dempsey from 1915 in his bout with Lester Johnson up to his second bout with Tunney in 1927 stated "Are you kidding? It's not close!" Dempsey hit much harder.

 

He definitely has power and he can definitely punch. The point of contention was comparing his speed and size to Baer as indicators of power.

 

Well then that's ignoring everything else I said about him.