How hard did Max Baer hit

The hell are you talking about? Baer annihilated Schmeling and gave the champ Primo Carnera one of the worst beat downs of all time. He definitely had power on the world stage level.

Are you delusional? The heavyweight division has always been there. Heavyweight is unlimited, Huck fights in a division where you can't weight more than 200 lbs.

 

My point is that if Huck had fought in Baer's time he would have done so as a heavyweight. Nowadays, being too small for the division, he's limited to fighting in the division below, a division which traditionally receives short shrift.

Huck, don't forget, gave Povetkin a pretty good drubbing, so I wasn't suggesting either man couldn't cut it at the world level, to some degree.

 

Point is that I've watched Huck and he is nothing. Again we are still talking about Baer 85 years after he won the worlds hwt championship. No one will know Hucks name in ten years. You are comparing a worlds hwt champion universally considered one of its hardest puncher to a contender in an era of 40 top ten contenders not known to be anything aside from mediocre.

 

Yes Huck would have fought as a heavyweight. What does that have to do with punching power?

 

Punching power is not F=ma. If that were true then the fastest punchers would be hardest punchers. What does history say?

Ali - Fast but not a hard puncher
Dokes - Not a hard puncher
Foreman - Slow but one of the hardest hitters ever
Larry Holmes - Fast but no a hard puncher
Liston - Slow but a very hard puncher

 

It doesn't have anything to do with punching power, but in how that power would have been seen in an earlier era. Had Huck fought in Baer's time he would have been on the world stage and a lot more people would have seen his brutal punching on display. Nowadays he fights in a no man's division that not even hard core boxing fans pay much attention to.

 

I know it's not, but Huck doesn't punch like a pitter pat guy. He launches his whole body into the shot. Once more go back to the video I posted and tell me how it's possible to get more power out of a shot than the way Huck throws it.

 

Of course Baer is more well known. He fought as a heavyweight alongside Joe Louis and has the benefit of decades of sports writers cementing his legacy in the minds of fight fans, along with the notoriety of having killed two men, and a Hollywood motion picture in which he plays a major role.

Your estimation of Huck as a champion and the division he fought in has been noted.

 

Enough people have seen Huck fight that he would be noted for being a devastating puncher if he was. He is not.

 

He just isn't a devastating puncher like Baer was. Idk why you insist on Huck being a great puncher. Seems that every Huck fan I have ever talked to is delusional in some sense about how good Huck is and the heavyweight division historically.

 

That's because he's fighting in an era of huge punchers, not just in his own division but at HW as well.

Had he fought in the 1930s he'd've had posters like you drooling over their skivvies. I have no doubt of that.

 

He nearly knocked Glowacki out with one shot. He stopped Afolabi for the first time in his career and that muhfuh is as tough as they come. He had the iron chinned Povetkin reeling all over the place and on the verge of getting stopped. He has a string of brutal stoppages every bit as impressive as Baer's.

I don't consider him a great puncher but I do consider him a very hard puncher at CW, and a lot of fighters who've fought or sparred him consider him to be such as well.

I've asked you several times to tell me how it's possible to get more power out of a right hand than the way Huck throws it. If you can't think of an answer then just say so.

 

Funny you list all these things except the most important one; he was the champion.

There were plenty of bruisers at Hucks level in those days. In a thread that lists such people, you said you didn't recognize the names. And that's exactly the point.

 

Huck was Champion as well. A very long standing one.

I can only go by what I see, and I don't see Baer being any significantly bigger a puncher than Huck.

 

You're saying there weren't huge punchers in the 30s. This is false.

There was: Max Baer, Joe Louis, Tony Galento, Buddy Baer, Max Schmeling, Jim Braddock, Lou Nova, and Primo Carnera.

All were ringin' up knockout after knockout.