How hard did Max Baer hit

You can't compare holding an alphabet title to being the real lineal champ. Baer was champion of all Heavyweights, not the cruiserweight division.

And he did it by defeating a 6'5 260lb 85" reach specimen.

To be quite honest, Huck doesn't touch Baer as a puncher. He is pretty good puncher, we can't deny that. But Baer is two classes above. Gassiev is way closer.

 

Against mostly small and/or crude opposition.

The CW division today has: Huck, Gassiev, Kudryashov, Briedis, Lebedev, Dorticos, Chakhiev, Kalenga, Makabu and Bellew.

That's just the CW division.

 

There's a reason Joe Louis' management avoided him!

 

I actually don't consider Huck the hardest puncher in the division. That title probably belongs to either Kudryashov or Gassiev. I picked Huck because he shares certain stylistic similarities to Baer so he makes comparison a bit easier.

 

All of this is blatantly false.

Do you honestly know anything about boxing or are you just a noob who came on here because he saw a Tyson fight? The knockout isn't a product of pure power. There are other factors such as timing, accuracy, and opportunity. Huck needs to work on his other tools as well.

Ask yourself. Does Huck have the best jab? Does Huck have the best timing? Is Huck the best combination puncher he can be? Is Huck the best counter puncher he can be? Does Huck have the best stamina? Does Huck have the highest work rate he can possibly achieve?

If the answer is no to one or more of these questions then there is your answer.

 

"Small or Crude Opposition" until 5 minutes ago you didn't know who any of those guys I mentioned even were. Who you consider small or crude means **** all to anyone else.

Huck has only stopped 2 guys in the last 5 years. He isn't a big puncher.
Gassiev and Lebedev fought and there was no knockout. Two supposedly big punchers should result in a knockout or at least a stoppage. Most of those guys you mentioned are unproven and are considered punchers by knocking out a bunch of nobodies. Fighters from the 30s earned their puncher status against actually rated fighters.

Do you honestly even look at who these Cruisers fought or are you just looking at the ko ratio? Its pitiful having to read your ill researched posts.

 

Huck is just another real bad low skilled European boxer. Amateur level ability. Sloppy.

 

Which Huck fights have you watched? Baer was relatively low skilled and sloppy too...hit like a mule and had a great chin though.

 

Actually untrue. Baer was tricky in there always setting up his right. He looked like a world beater in his defeat of Schmeling. Suggest you watch that bout.

I've reviewed several of Huck bouts and my conclusion is he is another sloppy amateurish European fighter. Nothing to be bragging about that is for sure. No Max Baer.

 

Seriously doubt you've actually *watched* enough Huck fights to form an informed opinion about him. I've seen plenty of Baer. Despite the ridiculous revisionism I read on this site, he was crude, sloppy, and lacking in many skill areas.

 

So Huck didn't stop Ola for the first time in his career? Who did then?

He didn't have Glowacki flat on the canvas with a single shot looking up at the ring lights?

He didn't give Povetkin all he could handle and had him out on his feet reeling like a drunken sailor?

All of this is on video or a matter of record. So what about it is blatantly false?

I don't claim Huck is an effective puncher or a skilled KO artist. He's clearly not. In fact that's one area where I'll concede Baer is his superior, his ability to actually land shots, since Huck can be unbelievably crude in this regard.

I'm comparing his power on single shots, and you've failed to answer my question yet again. Therefore I must come to the conclusion that you can't in fact think of a better way to get more power into a power right hand, which is what you should have said in the first place.

 

Which Huck bouts have you watched in their entirety?

 

WTF are you talking about? I know who all of those fighters are.

I'm an avid follower of the CW division, which I consider the most exciting no nonsense division in the sport. Huck's KO ratio dropped off because he upped his competition and a lot of fighters began to get wise to his predictable style. Remember I never said Huck was a great technician; he's basically a caveman that someone stuck a pair of boxing gloves onto and sent out to fight.

Gassiev didn't KO Lebedev because Lebedev is crazy tough and an old school campaigner who's been through the wars. He knows how to survive. Just because you put two punchers in the ring together means there'll be an instant KO. How long have you been following the sport not to know that?

 

Ummmm, no.

Schmeling looked like the more skilled, accurate and busy fighter. He also followed a terrible strategy of trying to mash right up to Baer and fighting him nose to nose, blow for blow. Baer, who had a granite chin and huge power, was quite happy to oblige and hand Schmeling a loss for his crappy strategy.

I suggest that you watch Braddock vs Baer to see the depths that Baer could plumb.

 

Are you forgetting the fact that Lebedev got knocked cold by Guillermo Jones? If you actually watched the fights instead of skimming boxrec you would have caught that one.

You just answered your own question as to why Huck isn't getting the knockout results desirable.