David Tua vs Tony Galento

So did Jim Braddock. It wasn't particularly hard to do.

 

Lol Using that logic, 250lb Sam Peter went the distance twice with a Middleweight.

 

You tell em!lol

 

Joe Louis is the second best, or the best heavyweight who ever lived.

If it wasn't hard to put him down, this wouldn't be the case.

It just so happens that he fought everyone across 2-3 eras.

 

Loughran was 183 lbs and had made light heavy a year and a half before his fight against Baer. Peter was 233-lbs and hadn't been a middleweight for 12+ years, since he was 23. That's a pretty weak analogy.

 

Yes, absolutely.

 

You mean Toney.
The analogy is perfect, you just decided to add an arbitrary qualifier to the equation that is inconsequential to the point.

If Braddock is forever a LHW, Toney is forever a MW.

 

Toney was a 200 pound quarterback in high school. Ezzard Charles stayed close to the 160 limit as long as Toney did. Does that mean that he is forever a MW?

 

If Braddock is forever a LHW, every fighter is forever their original boxing size. It's dumb. And my examples are meant to expose the silliness of that notion.

If Ezzard is a MW, than 250lb power punching boogeyman Sam Peter went the distance twice with a MW. And I'm sure there are even worse examples using this logic to make size modernists more uncomfortable.

 

Gotcha.

 

A person becomes a heavyweight as soon as they beat somebody of significance in the heavyweight division, even if they have previously fought at bantamweight.

 

No. Your words were light heavyweights that withstood his power, not fighters you personally feel could make light heavy today that Baer failed or struggled to stop.

Braddock was 194, only knocked out once in 24 losses by Joe Louis after a lay off. He was not only a heavyweight but arguably one of the most durable fighters in history.

Loughran was 183, and did not WITHSTAND Max's punches. According to reports he was never hit clean. We know a lazy Baer can be out boxed by a master like Loughran, your argument was about his power.

Schmeling was 189, and was destroyed by the first big right Baer landed clean. So a Heavyweight being destroyed by Baer is irrelevant.

Your criticism of Baer's power are unfounded. You knew that, which is why you been on the run after making that comment.

 

Doesnt matter. Its Ovah said light heavyweights that withstood Baer's power.

Loughran was a heavyweight who avoided Baer's power, big difference.

If we are talking former light heavies that were simply not stopped or put up a struggle we could tear down almost every big puncher in history with such a critique.

 

I'm not so sure he did. Your question is irrelevant anyway
Ask yourself the questions I gave and what do you come up with? Ask yourself also:

Q How many punchers Galento faced ? Q How he fared against them?

 

Not so sure he did what?

The answer to any logical boxing fan is no. You would not think that Ike would be likely to beat Tua had he retired right before the Tua fight. This just goes to show how inconsistent David Tua really was. He lost to everyone relevant except the can that is John Ruiz.

Galento had the style to set Tua off his mark. He's just a better fighter. Tua is perhaps more fundamentally sound I'll give him that but he is as basic as they come. You couldn't get a more plain fighter. It's like ordering a double cheeseburger with nothing on it.

I think you've been pretty dishonest about Galento. If I only went by the information you provided I would be led to believe he was incredibly slow, weak chinned, and had average punching power. All of which are false.