Some perspective for those blowing smoke up Crawford's rear and calling him P4P

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Genetics play a big part but it is an impressive physique nonetheless.

    However this isn't the face of a 34 year old man. I'd late 40's to early 50's

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  2. Nay_Sayer

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    How many times has Bumlovkin moved up in weight?
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    He didn't need to as there are established names in his division. There are no established names in the 140 division.
     
  4. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gamboa, Postol and Indongo were established in the division. They might not be elite level but they were all established, that's undeniable. If all three of those met one another some of those would be close match-ups which could go either way. Bud is an elite level guy and made them all look poor, as he did to Burns.
     
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    If Bud never existed for example a potential matchup between Indongo and Postol would be a decent match-up. Just because both lost to an elite level fighter dosen't turn them **** overnight.
     
  6. Pimp C

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    After Crawford destroys Horn you're going to look real stupid. Especially since you picked Horn to beat and expose him.
     
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    You sound like a Wilder fan who will desperately try to justify their idol beating down on bums.

    Geale was an established name, yet I doubt you will find anyone ranking GGG's win over him as anything other than decent. Some even argue he was a poor fighter and they wouldn't be far wrong.

    When I say established names, I mean men who will make you sit up and take notice i.e Canelo, Garcia, or a Rigo.

    Crawford has no such names on his record because he has made a career out of fighting tailor made bums who offer no genuine threat in over 32 bouts. Just as bad as Wilder's resume where most agree is garbage.
     
  8. Ilikeboxing

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    You sound like a racist mentioning farming communities, like everybody from Africa is living off the land. And no, I'm a fan of boxing and Wilder is not even in my top ten heavyweights at this time.

    I have GGG as my P4P number one but can freely admit as an unbiased boxing fan Bud has a better resume when they was both at the same age of 29. Even during GGG's lack of opposition during that time he was still in most people's P4P list from his skill-set. Just how Bud is currently number 2 on my P4P list for his skill-set. If you want to attack Bud's resume, I'll gladly attack GGG's to prove resume dosen't mean ****.
     
  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    I never said you were a Wilder fan, I said you come across as one by defending the indefensible. Wilder's fans justify his resume even though it is littered with garbage.

    Resumes wise GGG's is far superior now he is taking on Canelo. Crawford has never had to deal with the calibre of opponents GGG has. Jacobs, Brook(since you crawbully fanboys don't care about weight advantages) and Lemiuex are superior to any of the weak frail old part time boxers Crawford has fought.

    Did you know Ricky Burns was working part time in retail while preparing to fight Crawford?

    Regarding the farming comment, this is stuff from Indongo's own biography. He learned how to train in a village and most villagers live off the land. So don't try and pull out the race card just because your argument is weak.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    I'm afraid that fight is very unlikely to happen considering your boy doesn't like to take any risks. He has his path of least resistance set out for him. Another easy routine defense against Liponete(or whatever the hell his name is) and will justfiy it the mismatch due to it being a mandatory. Then will fight another bum at 147 who you will say was unavoidable due to needing to warm up and adjust to the new division (even though it's his natural weight class)

    Then call out a 40 year old manny paquaio, who will accept the fight. He then maybe fights a ruined Broner, before Crawbully finally call it quits before he faces any of the real lions in the division and you boys will run with it and tell the world how he has nothing left to prove and is p4p no 1 for all eternity.
     
  11. slender4

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    A WBO Super-Featherweight titlist with two defenses turned WBO Lightweight titlist with 5 defenses was "working part-time in retail" training for the fight?!?

    Damn, I thought Bob Arum was bad.
     
  12. Nay_Sayer

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    The fact of the matter is this, Bumlovkin spent YEARS beating up on TOMATO CANs @ 160 - while ignoring the challenge waiting for him @ 168.. The ONLY noteworthy 160lb'er on his resume is Jacobs - a guy he arguably lost to. Meanwhile, Crawford has beaten the BEST and become LINEAL in *two* weight classes.

    Crawford >>> Bumlovkin
     
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    Weak arguments are when people throw presumptions around like "Oh, you sound like a Wilder fan" to try and justify their ulterior motives. You never disagreed with Bud's resume being better than GGG's aged 29 so my argument must be more than weak to you. You also never disagreed with GGG being on most people's P4P list during his time fighting relative bums in comparison to his own level of boxing skills. This is what Bud is going through at the moment.

    As for future bouts, if M Garcia who is on most people's P4P list fought Bud at 140lbs, he'd lose quite convincingly. TC is a completely different animal to when he beat them in the amateurs. He wants to move up and fight the best at 147lbs, so that tells me he's after names on his resume, he's not being fed journeymen and holding the belts hostage. He's dropping his belts to fight the best. I'm a GGG fan but he never did this!

    As for Burns' working P/T that's his own problem for spending his money and not saving it. If I was headlining shows in Scotland he'd have made over a million throughout his career. If he's not got any left, that's down to him being financially unstable and dosen't have anything to do with his boxing skills. Which are proven to be at World level already, seeing as he's been champion in different weight classes.
     
  14. Nay_Sayer

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    Gamboa and Postol were much more established than Geale ever was.

    Exactly WHO has Daniel Geale ever beaten?
     
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    Bumlovkin hasn't beaten Canelo yet - so exactly HOW is his resume "far superior" to Crawford's? Please explain, Einstein...