Frampton Rumours. Any info?

I wouldn't think he'd be pigheaded enough to aportion more blame on Shane than himself for the LSC rematch but I could easily see the financial side being the catalyst.

If the post above stating that Cyclone are half a mil in the hole is true, that's quite a mystery. Were they taking a loss with the Ch5 deal? How could that be the case if they were swallowing such an unreasonably large piece or Carl's pie at the same time.

 

yeah i dunno how they have lost that much money, maybe they lost some with the last fight being cancelled but i dunno how they can be 500k down, they only do a few shows and they seem to sell well and do good viewing figures on Channel 5. But then again Frank Warren admitted that they were losing money before the BT deal so maybe promoters can only survive with a platform like SKY or BT backing them rather than a channel 5 type platform.

 

I'm no finance whiz, but couldn't the £500k that Cyclone is down be AFTER Barry and the other McGuigans have taken their slice?

 

yes but if that's the case then its either the business has the money or the mcguigans have the money, either way one of them is gonna have no money

 

I guess the question is how greedy have the McGuigans been. Could some or all of them taking too big a slice have led to both Frampton leaving and Cyclone's accounts looking bleak. Or has the management / promotion just not been good enough... either way I think Carl is better off without them.

 

agreed, josh taylor will probably leave now as well as they have only have like 3 fighters and they can't put on good consistent shows with a stable so bleak

 

Gerry Storey moulded Frampton into the fighter he is, and whilst you can only go so far on natural ability there is no doubt all the best fighters have had it by the bucket load. Shane never got the Frampton gig by merit or off the back of some glittering past record, he's the Wee Fellas son, and thats the one and only reason he ended up as Framptons trainer.

On the two occasions Shanes fighters have come unstuck, he's crumbled and offered them nothing. A glorified fitness instructor and nutritionist, with a Father who was a decent fighter.

 

Frampton's next choice will be critical on how his career shapes up and a legacy. I dont see him moving away going to the us,where i think al haymon would want him to fight,so i see matchroom in the driving seat to secure him.

 

This 500k figure is from 2016 aswell isnt it so they could be in much worse shape now, and thats before they paid Ohara davies 100k plus to fight on ch5

 

and money they probably lost for the cancelled show last month.

 

Exactly, feel sorry for all the boxers who were meant to be on the bill as it's not been rescheduled.

 

I see Shane McGuigan has took Carl of the list of fighters he trains on twitter.

 

I'm too young to be a fan of McGuigan's through his boxing career, and I don't know enough about the promotional outfit's finances to come to any conclusions. I don't have a horse in the race but I do feel inclined to defend Shane just because he seems to be getting unjustly shat upon.

Nobody's trying to attribute a decorated amateur like Frampton's achievements solely to Shane, but it's facetious to suggest Frampton's gotten as far as he has in the pro ranks with a poor team behind him. I'm not suggesting he wouldn't have done well with a different trainer, or if he'd stayed a Matchroom fighter. The suggestion is that Shane contributed nothing to his success and I don't buy that.

What exactly was Shane supposed to offer up to an injured David Haye? I do agree the tactics in the LSC rematch should've been altered by mid-fight but I'd put at least as much blame on Frampton, however much that amounts to considering it was almost as close a fight as the first.

Glorified fitness instructor? The same thing was said about Adam Booth at one time.

 

Very good post. I don't believe Shane is as good as some say but not as bad as others say. He is obviously a good coach and feel sorry for him. I feel he's been caught in middle between his pal and his dad. I bet if he was not Barry's son he and Carl would still be together.

 

Lets not go too over the top about how Frampton has been underpaid, badly trained and generally hard done by.
HE was the one that left Matchroom in the first place and was warned that there was a clear conflict of interests.

Four years on and he's suddenly realised this and may well end up running back to Matchroom with begging bowl in hand.

Also funny how it's Shane's fault for having no plan B, he's over rated etc but when one of his fighters produces a good performance 'that was more down to the skills of Josh Taylor' !!!