Pernell Whittaker vs Floyd Mayweather?

This would be ATG fight. I lean towards PBF he was the better counter puncher because he was in a much better position to counter than Pea was due to his style and was faster and longer. He also didn't clown around as much as Pea did.

 

It would be one of the worst fights ever. Literally no action.

 

You can counter all you want, but single shots won't do it. Whitaker is too good to be potshotted that won't win FMJ rounds. Pea would string together combos and rack up points. Mayweather will have to open up and leave himself exposed. Whitaker is just a little too versatile IMO for Mayweather.

 

Pea Whitaker wasn't as consistent as PBF for his career. PBF always showed up and didn't play around. PBF has ATG defense as well in case you hadn't noticed he also was never dropped like Whitaker was. This fight without a doubt would be a chess match both having their moments. Pea Whitaker wouldn't be landing combos on PBF. When have you seen a fighter land combos on PBF? PBF is the more complete fighter of the two he was longer than Pea and would beat him to the punch as he tried to come in. This is the type of fight where single shots would be the difference. I feel that PBF would landed the cleaner and harder shots throughout the fight with Whitaker doing alot of mugging and clowning around. He will have a hard time getting in on PBF's big reach advantage without paying the price don't overlook that.

 

I agree that Mayweather's defense is great, but it's not as organic as Whitaker's. The way Whitaker flows from defense off of his own offense is unique. FMJ has never fought an ATG fighter in their prime unlike Whitaker who has. So Whitaker has had MUCH stiffer competition. Of course FMJ is a superb fighter, but not as proven opposition wise as Whitaker. So we don't know he would react to a fighter of Whitaker's level. If FMJ had fought guys like DLH, Chavez, Trinidad in their prime then maybe we would have more information on FMJ. Most of Mayweather's best opponents were at least 5 years past their prime or in the case of Marquez just too damn small.

 

Whitaker never beat an ATG in their prime. Chavez was not in his prime.

 

Chavez was fairly close to his best. At least much closer than Mosley and Pac were when FMJ fought them. And DLH was in his prime and Whitaker although he deserved to lose because DLH landed the harder, cleaner, better shots held his own despite being 33 and off a layoff and personal life problems.

 

Chavez was a few years past almost having the rug pulled by Meldrick Taylor and was six months from losing to Randall. He wasn't prime and had a completely uneventful year leading up to the Whitaker fight.

Floyd-Pacquiao was anlagous in the sense that the pfp 1 and 2 were fighting but different in the sense that both fighters were past it. Manny actually had a much better year in the lead in to that fight than Floyd did and looked good in his next big fight too.

Whitaker performed okay in losing to a peak DLH. Floyd looked okay beating a past it but still good DLH with a large size disadvantage.

 

Im not sure Duran beats Pea at 135 nevermind cherry picking FlIVd.

 

did Mayweather really ?

 

you are right on.. It was brilliant how he did it, and how he is fighting a guy who is not a boxer this weekened for millions.

 

The only person who could Pea was himself, so probably Floyd.

 

No, unless Canelo exceeds expectations or you bend the circumstances to include Marquez.

The point I'm making is that the "must beat a prime ATG" is just a flimsy mantra that Pac fans invented to discredit Floyd, whose resume is built on absurd longevity and wins over fighters who mostly fall short of "prime ATG" but were still very serious opponents, often pfp or hof bound.

 

He is the luckiest boxer of all time.
Floyd managed to duck fighters in ways that others haven't even comprehended. Examples:
a. Fighting B- level fighters for 4 years back-to-back before fighting Judah, calling it 'building his brand'. No other P4P no.1 fighter would've been able to get away with that. None.
b. Taking a 'vacation' when he could've fought some killers at 147 (who I think he'd beat anyway).

If there were Donald Curry's and Thomas Hearns' at Welterweight, he would've said 'I walk around at 147lbs, I'ma stay at 140'.

 

What dishonest drivel. Fair enough if you think Mayweather beats Whitaker, that's not an implausible opinion by any means but your biased thought processes are actually scary.
Chavez had a legit win over Taylor, also Taylor at 140 and below is ridiculously difficult to outbox.
JLC was 'at or near prime', so that counts. Coming off wins over Alli, Haugen and Camacho = 'completely uneventful year'? How ridiculous.

'Both fighters were past it' - Pac was semi-shot. Floyd was past it but not semi-shot.

'performed okay in losing to a peak DLH' - even though that was an ultimately EVEN fight.