who really think eubank can win the 168 super series

I m not sure about renegotiating the deal. Could well be the case...the eubanks are afterall a business. Tbh in this game i dont really blame them. Many many fighters have been taking advantage of over the years...i take my hat off to anyone that makes it work for themselves financially.

I tend to disagree with a lot of people regarding eubank junior tho. I have it the other way round. They,ll be a lot more guys out there...not wanting to face eubank more so than the other way about. Seemingly gave a lot of guys hard sparring over the years. He still gets tagged with the hes not world class tag etc. For me hes basically a massive bannana skin for a lot of guys out there. More likely to believe guys want to avoid him. Hes a dangerous hungry fighter. I still say hes a vicious puncher. Similar to groves. They dont knock you out with one punch. But their damaging accumulative clean accurate shots when they do land. Both guys ended up finishing guys with blackwell and was it gunecht. Terrible that i dont remember his name.

 

he doesnt have vicious power before he came to boxnation he didnt get the hype for been a puncher then he fights all this trash before the saunders fight knocks them out his ko% goes up now his a vicious puncher

 

Agreed he doesn't have vicious power, decent power yes but not vicious.

 

his chin is also hype he hasnt fought a fighter with a ko punch and he got stunned abit by spike and blackwell saunders isnt a puncher and abraham was never gonna test his chin at that point in his career we would have seen how good his chin was against golovkin but he didnt fight golovkin

 

TBF I doubt he can remember his name either.

 

Sorry guys didnt quite mean vicious puncher as in julian jackson. The reason groves and eubanks arent getting one punch knockouts and its taking them time...is in how they fight more than not having very decent power. They dont really disguise their punches that much. Groves has become much less of a counter puncher where he actually was getting one punch knockouts. Eubanks a bit too robotic to be better as a counter puncher They both work off of a high workrate where they overwhelm their opponents. They know their power saps guys eventually it will take its toll and if it doesnt the cards should be favourable. Guys at that level can take a good barracking especially when they can see the punches coming. Its just an effective style for eubank especially. I still say groves is worse off without being more of a counterpuncher. But i dont think its fair to say their powers a problem. Because its actually very much things both guys have actually going for them. Good power. Its just that they use it...different to a guy going for the one punch knockout.

Even golovkins softening guys up for some rounds.

 

Both GG and Jr have power. Just ask Froch, he has had hard times with both.

 

I'm blown away that people really don't think Jr has a chance. I think he has a great chance of beating everyone involved, just sceptical that his father will let him stay in the tournament; inevitably some foolishness will cause him to pull out.

 

Eubank Jr is featherfisted, end of story.

He's going to be even more featherfisted at 168.

When you land a combined total of 20 million clean headshots on Spike, Blackwell, Quinlan and Abraham and none of them hit the canvas you know that something is up.

 

Why can't he win it? Callum Smith is unproven, groves is beatable and the rest are nothing flash. Its not as if Froch, kessler and ward are in it.

 

The thing is tho when you look at guys like carl frochs record. His early career is filled with guys that took rounds to get out of their. And carl pretty much was never described as feather fisted. And he was hitting guys with 20 million clean headshots also. Must have hit pascal with hundreds...guy never budged. Even bute was an accumulation of punches. Glen johnson. Kessler etc. Never budged them....hundreds of punches. Allright saying their better than spike, quinlan, blackwell etc but go back further in carls record. Theres a lot of guys there that took shellackings for 7, 10, 11 rounds etc that are on that same level.

It doesnt mean their feather fisted its just that there going for an accumulation to get the job done rather than going for the one punch knockouts. And with the guys you ve mentioned it did get the job done one guy in horrendous consequences. Stupid to call eubank feather fisted. Its his style of fighting. High workrate...accumulation puncher . Its actually a tactic more than problem with his power. They,d get earlier knockouts if they changed his style...but it would leave him a lot more open to getting beat. Outboxed/outpointed.

 

He has average power. But a good work rate and chin. His style is unorthodox. So he's a tough nights work for anyone

Doesn't have the long schooling that most of these guys have so is a bit wild and wastes energy.

I'm unsure he's proven loads wrong before unknown entity. His only real love opponent was Billy and he's improved a lot since then

 

When the workrates that high...the powers not all that important...cause hes hitting you enough to sap that energy etc anyway. Look at joe calzaghe different style...but his slaps never cost him. No one ever said joe,s no good because hes featherfisted. Not that he was...but eubanks hitting harder than calzaghe lb for lb. Its just that their seeing the punches coming more with eubank. Calzaghe overwhelmed you also...but because he was throwing...threes, fours, fives etc...you stop seeing the punches coming. Brains seeing maybe three or four...then the fifth maybe went in undetected sometimes it could be say the third punch. And thats when the problems start. Pretty much the punches you dont see coming.

Opponents know eubanks gonna throw...the brain prepares for it. But it doesnt mean hes not sapping the opponent with them punches. Eubanks powers effective. Tbh thats all it needs to be.

 

I see your points, but I don't think Eubank is capable of scoring knockouts like Froch did. Especially to world level opposition.

 

I give Eubank a shot. He showed lots of improvement against Abe . Better movement and more punch variety. I still think Grove's will UD him (think they'll both win their first rounds easily) but will be a good scrap.