Terence Crawford vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - who wins right now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Aug 27, 2017.


Who wins?

  1. Lomachenko by knockout

  2. Lomachenko by decision

  3. Draw

  4. Crawford by decision

  5. Crawford by knockout

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since the superb Vasyl Lomachenko like taking on opponents two divisions apart, let's say it's role reversal and he fights Terence Crawford instead of Guillermo Rigondeaux. We are talking about 3 of the 10 best P4P fighters who are willing to take on a challenge, so it's always fun to discuss realistic possibilities - that is if Lomachenko is brave enough to do what he asks of Rigo, to move up two full divisions.

    Speed advantage must go to Lomachenko, and lately, he upped his output game as well. Very wide arsenal, superb timing, good footing, though a little amateurish as in rarely being able to dramatically change the course of the fight once he figured the angles out.

    Crawford is of course bigger, learnt how to properly deliver KO shots better, can mix up styles and stances, has superb timing and the ability to dramatically change the course of the fight once he figured out what the opponent can and can't do.

    Also, there are a lot of positives and negatives on both sides, say movement can still put Terence off a little, where as Salido proved, bringing the fight up close with smart angles and shady tactics, a situation can be introduced where a career-amateur is a little too green at the deep trenches.

    Who do you think gets his hand raised once the official verdict is in?
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'd actually give Lomachenko a fairly good chance, he took on and almost beat a full fledged Welterweight 4 divisions up, who was fighting dirty in a freaking 12 rounder, when he was at 126 in his second freaking match.
     
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  3. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Crawford by KO, too big, too good.
     
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  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a nice 'welcome to professional boxing, Mr Superstar' that was! One of my all-time favorite performances plus a blueprint.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah it was since I picked Salido to win. Now what the **** is your problem with Lomachenko? I think he's been proving on a regular basis he's pretty legit racking up win after win, what's the reason for all this anti-Loma butthurt from you Big Bone? Its not like Loma gave you the Big Bone, all he's doing is backing up that he is now in fact Mr. Superstar, and that's got you all rankled for some reason. As much as I dislike many fighters, I rarely hate them enough to make threads about them, much less two almost back to back.
     
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  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude, this is a thread to discuss Crawford-Lomachenko, no need to get emotional just cause I stated Salido was the underdog and Loma the star coming into that fight, which, in some way of course has a relevance in this particular discussion. Cheers!
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're right it is, then why didn't you respond to the fact that I said Loma took on a WW in his second match, 4 divisions above? You gloated about it, and deflected. I undermined the entire point of your thread in the first post, and you gave me nothing. There's 8 pounds separating Rigo and Loma, there's 10 pounds separating Loma and Crawford, Salido weighed 147 on fight night, Loma only 136, that's 11 pounds more. Since Crawford doesn't use his weight to his advantage the way Salido used it, it probably wouldn't be much of a factor if they fought. But go ahead, keep trying to undermine Loma's win over Rigo before it even happens like the propagandistic rat you are.:thumbsup:
     
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  8. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you are upset that Loma might fight someone that has being calling him out on social media to the point that it gets ridiculous, there are a lot of YT videos saying Loma is ducking Rigo, that Loma is afraid of someone smaller etc. All that upsets you that the fight might actually happen now and now you bring excuses that Loma should fight Crawford because he will fight Rigo who is two divisions below. Your "Loma is ducking Rigo" excuse is about to end and you don't want that.

    Loma has said in the past that 135lbs is his max. Unless Crawford decides to come down to 135lbs we might have a fight but I doubt it.

    Rigo is too small for 130lbs. IMO, I think he can even fight at 118lbs if he wanted to. Loma vs Rigo was good at 126lbs, not 130lbs. At 130lbs it will be competitive for a few rounds than Loma's size will kick in.
     
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  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did what now? :lol: Salido weighed in 2 lbs above the FW limit and 2 below where Loma's currently fighting. Why are you so biased and want to turn the attention away from Crawford-Lomachenko? Can we discuss it, sir?
     
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  10. zeratul

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    Physical mismatch.
     
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  11. ellerbe

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    Let's be honest though. Crawford beating Loma at 140 does not mean the same as Crawford beating Loma at 135. Just like Loma beating at 130 isn't the same as beating him at 126. I favor Loma highly at 130 and I favor Crawford highly at 140 in these match ups. Loma vs Rigo at 126 and Loma vs Crawford would be good ass fights though and very hard fights to call.
     
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  12. cslb

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    LMAO! and you expect people to take you seriously.
     
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  13. slender4

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    Well, Uncle Bob has both contracts, and he LOVES to collect two paychecks on the same night, always has; but he has already said this fight ain't gonna happen -- that will tell you all you need to know.
     
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  14. Gil Gonzalez

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    This is a nice example of what weight classes are for. Loma is far better a fighter than Crawford, skill wise, but Crawford is as large as a welter, so would easily hurt Loma.

    Hasn't Rigo been calling out Loma? Yes he has. Doesn't Rigo know Loma is at 130? Yes, also. Didn't Bob already offer Rigo 126 with an equal purse split, which Rigo refused. Yes, again. Doesn't Rigo continue to call out the 130 lb. Loma, knowing Loma won't go to 122? Yes, in fact, that is also true.

    So why claim that Loma is at fault here?

    Why the obvious hate for Loma?
     
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  15. PH|LLA

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    Crawford beats Lomachenko even if they were the same size.
     
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