Mayweather/McGregor Fight Discussion

I felt if I watched it again in good quality, I would notice that Mayweather was just sparring and wasn't serious.

NOPE.

McGregor was landing some genuinely decent shots that Mayweather did not anticipate. It just wasn't in Mayweather's plan to get hit with shots like that. hard for Mayweather to read.

Mayweather knew that with McGregor's very stocky upper body, he would gas out. His big upper physique is important for MMA elements i.e wrestling. For Mayweather to take over the fight from the middle rounds onwards is pure embarassment because 1. Conor was outpointing Floyd 2. Floyd only found his feet more when Conor started gassing out and ceasing to be as he was in the first few rounds.

On an exhibition standpoint and from an evaluative standpoint, giving Mayweather credit for waiting for a 0-0 fighter from a different sport to gas out is pathetic - why couldn't the boxer actually outbox in the eye of the hurricane when it mattered?

Mayweather was coming forward and made it a point to do so, but for one of the most skilled fighters ever, especially one who does actually stay in punching range and is more active against someone he's stylistically advantaged over i.e vs Canelo, he sure did take a LOT of unplanned good hits.

I'm not sure I see boxing the same anymore. Mayweather could've won more easily by focussing more on pot shotting but there's no glory in that, nor is it really 'fighting', it's more fencing.

 

Dampened Boxing even more for me. I was already getting off it as I like MMA anyway (Muay Thai + BJJ blend more specifically).
Striking for MMA is more useful than striking for boxing.

 

Compubox has 111. Not that compubox is perfect, but it's the standard.

Floyd was more aggressive than usual. I'm taking that into account and still saying it was very impressive for a debut boxer with no real amateur pedigree.

 

Floyd looked pretty bad...But I think he did also against Maidana, Berto and Pac.

After 2 rounds Floyd knew all he had to do was walk forward and make Connor throw knowing he'd gas. Early on Floyd sat on the ropes goading McGregor in but Connor didn't take the bate.

All that training and after 2 rounds McGregor had already faded and turned into an arm puncher

 

Your boy lost. Is pissing and moaning about it making you feel better?

 

Just re-watched round 4 on youtube and Conner was outclassed he didn`t land a thing and even admitted he should have sparred more with a fighter that uses a high guard, he also needed someone to teach him to throw wide hooks to get behind the raised hands, Mayweather took over here and that`s what wore Connor down he missed 70% of his punches like Honeyghan vs Staring in the 80`s, a pro vs an amateur.

 

I'm moaning about it not because of McGregor, but because Boxing lost me quite a lot yesterday. It was already losing me, and this was bad.

 

All the great fighters from the past (or their family representatives), want similar Exhibitions (boxing, /wresting, etc) to be added to their overall boxing records.

 

I'm sure watching your boy getting walked down and battered by a 40 year old, retired boxer did make you not like boxing even more.

 

I'm yet to watch it again, only going off viewing it live, but it seemed to me that Mayweather was adopting an incredibly basic boxing approach. I'm not sure whether he couldn't 'get up' for this, he's just aged that much or he was always going to adopt this approach, but I feel that he could have looked a lot more impressive had he wanted to utilise some more of the razzle dazzle that he's famous for. McGregor looked absolutely huge in there and I was genuinely concerned in at least the first round after seeing that he could at least get to Floyd (although that soon dissipated.) The fantasy of the 'lucky punch' KO seemed a very real threat in the early stages. I wonder how good a boxer McGregor could have been if he'd taken up the sport and seriously pursued it from a young age.

 

That's an overreaction. Mayweather was playing with him in there.

A prime MMA athlete, one of the best ever in the sport gassed out after five rounds and a 40-year old boxer didn't - how does boxing look bad?

On a side note, Cain Velazquez probably has the best gas tank out of any UFC fighter. Especially as a HW. Would love to see him in a boxing 12-rounder to see how he lasts. Would pay good money to see David Price v Cain Velazquez in a boxing match.

 

I am dissapoint. Really? Floyd in no way represents the current upper crust of boxers except in his matchless (now and hopefully forever) ability to sucker in the casuals. This has been one of the best years for matchmaking in recent memory. Please rethink your position.

 

To me it didn't look bad because Conor needs more mass for the execution for his style in MMA - even then, he is known for having very poor stamina even by championship level UFC standards.
Boxers on the other hand are trained in a more marathon like manner over 12 rounds so Mayweather's cardio is always going to be better than his over a 12 round construct, with boxing skills used only.

The only fair way is to have Velasquez fight Price where both are limited to their own respective sports rules - they have specialised their capabilities, pacing strategies and physiques accordingly to their own respective sports.

I don't think Mayweather was playing with him - I want to believe that but the only element of 'play' from Mayweather was in him pressing the action more (but even then, that's what he does against type of Conor's style). This isn't even a knock on Mayweather one bit, this is just a knock on boxing.

 

Would you rather have seen Floyd jump right on Conor, throwing massive shots, trading punches,
and taking hits (arm punches, but still) from McGregor? Because obviously you didn't like seeing a master
boxer take a few rounds to figure out his opponents weaknesses, then take advantage of them and
proceed to literally "school" him into submission?

Hey I liked Gatti-Ward too, but Floyd is a different style fighter. You do realize that don't you...styles vary amongst boxers.

It's certainly your prerogative to watch MMA/UFC. Personally I don't like seeing men on top of each other rolling around the canvas, but to each his own. I really like martial arts, which is why I like ju-jitsu, judo, karate, and Donnie Chen/Tony Jaa/Bruce Lee movies. I understand the difference between the styles and appreciate them all.

But not MMA/UFC.

 

Boxing in 2017 has been at its best, it even eclipsed 2013. I'm not knocking that, but I think the nature of the boxing form of combat is just lost on me, personally.
I think Floyd with his extra-terrestrial skill level in boxing does repressent the upper crust of boxers, although he must have been more Jessie Vargas level in there yesterday night - that is still upper crust.