Roy Jones vs Joe Louis & Sonny Liston at HW

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  1. mcvey

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    Its a point of view.
     
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  2. superman1986

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    So you dont think Roy could make tracks and evade Liston? At least for a little while?

    The one and only reason I see Jones as competitive is because of his speed.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    For a while certainly , but not for the whole fight ,just MO.
     
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  4. bodhi

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    Yeah, you did. However, it's just not relevant to this thread. Ellis was neither in the class of Liston nor Louis, nor did he fight like either of them.

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  5. superman1986

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    I can buy that. Especially when considering a well trained 1960 Liston. But Jones is the underdog certainly and could be brutally starched.

    Or 1941 Louis. I would give Jones a good chance of upsetting 1964 Liston who only trained for a 4 rounder.
     
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  6. mcvey

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    It's my way of illustrating that I don't think much of Jones as a heavyweight.
     
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  8. superman1986

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    I think Jones would have done well in the era of cruiser sized heavies. He did show that it was not out of the question for a skilled old time heavy to beat a decent modern day heavy. At 193 pounds, Jones was the size of many of the pre 70s heavies.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    I see Ellis taking him out with a quick right hand.
     
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  10. Mr.DagoWop

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    Nah, I doubt it. Louis is just as fast and can catch Jones. Jones wasn't untouchable.
     
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  11. Longhhorn71

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    RJJ's Dad said the same thing about Roy wanting to go "heavyweight".
     
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  12. Longhhorn71

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    Shufflin' Joe Louis, was known as Shufflin' Joe, because of his foot speed.
     
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  13. superman1986

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    I meant his handspeed.
     
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    Could Eddie Machen take John Ruiz??
     
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  15. Mr.DagoWop

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    You realize that Jones has to hit Louis too right? Louis' timing is better than Jones' and he has speed to match.
     
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