What's harder to deal with when fighting bigger men? Their power or their chin?

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  1. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    they can usually take more damage
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So it must be chin that's the biggest advantage that the larger men have. No doubt Foster could have hurt anybody at HW. He hit hard enough, but his LHW frame just couldn't take the pain and the power of a natural HW.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you think a Wladimir right hand leaves the same amount of pain on Jacobs as it does Joshua? Something tells me that Anthony Joshua can handle a flush Wlad right better than a 160 pounder.
     
  4. Jackfazz

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    I wouldn't say that being bigger naturally makes you obsorb pain better I think it's in your genetics but for example GGG if he fought a version of himself who was in proportion 2 stone heavier I would say the heavier version would be able to punch harder and absorb pain better
     
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  5. HerolGee

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    if he lands flush on each chin, they both take approximately (and to all intents and purposes since they both get ktfo) the same damage.

    Having extra size means having extra height and reach which(person getting hit, that is) may reduce the chances of landing flush if that size is used correctly, so effectively in a boxing ring the potential to cause more damage is to the smaller opponent. But categorically NOT because "they cant take a free flush punch to the jaw as well as someone bigger taking a free flush punchto the jaw". The brain is getting pole-axed by either flush punch either way.

    This concept should not be difficult for you to understand surely.
     
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  6. lucky luke

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    Someone wrote earlier that force=mass*acceleration.

    That means that acceleration=force/mass.

    So your head will accelerate less if heavier, your head will rattle less and thus give less "damage". Beeing bigger usually, in boxing, also translates into having more/stronger muscles wich further would decrease the impact.
     
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  7. HerolGee

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    so whats the difference in head size between a MW and a HW? half a pound? Between a LW and a HW? A single pound?

    What makes you think half a pound makes a difference to a knockout flush punch to the jaw carrying over 200lbs?

    Seriously, you been watching too many "BA Baracus from the A team tv show" type movie fights.



    if that muscle mass was conglomerated around the jaw then YES. But its not. The biggest muscle attached to the jaw is the sternocleidomastoid, that resists blows to the jaw and is one you should be paying most attention to here, and its pretty much the same size in a MW or HW.
     
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  8. lucky luke

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    I don't think you can look at the head as an isolated part of the body, you have to take every part effected by the blow in consideration.

    Also the jaw is not what you usually hurt you when getting punched, the danger is getting your brain rattled between the craniums' walls, causing concussions or other brain damage. A KO.

    The head, brain, is not held up by your jaw, but your neck and back.
     
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  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    YES, THANK YOU!

    THis is much better!

    I think you are getting there.
     
  10. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I just wrote corresponds to what my first post said, and that a hw can handle the same punch, in general, better then a boxer of lower weight.

    But I'm glad that discussion can lead to agreements.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    You're in the right. Whatsisname is in the wrong. Simple as.
     
  12. HerolGee

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    well, we are discussing "chin", which is the pretty much the jaw, but if you want to start a new ballgame then please do.
    The brain is going to get rattled more if the head doesnt move, not less. If the brains soaking up even more of the momentum of the punch by the head displacing less via stronger neck muscles, thats worse for the brain. Though again its an insignificant difference compared to what the 200+lb punch is making.


    again, a pound of extra muscle around the neck, even if the blow is landing at an angle utilising it, is going to make very little difference to stopping a flush blow of over 200lbs of force. Its factors extraneous to that which will make the significant difference.
     
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  13. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    their Height and REACH!
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Rhetorical question. If you're stupid don't let everyone else know.
     
  15. BCS8

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:

    Give me a ****ing break.

    This is epic idiot material right here, and it can only come from Herol :duh:duh

    Trust THIS dude to come and basically tell boxers from time immemorial that all the neck exercises etc they do to improve their punch resistance are ACTUALLY giving them what is in effect a glass jaw :rolleyes: