Vasyl Lomachenko the Best Greek fighter of all time?

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  1. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Is Kratos Greek? If so he gets my vote as the greatest fighter of Greek descent.
     
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  2. Radrook

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    Greek isn't a race-it's a nationality and physical appearances within nationalities varies. David Haye is considered of British nationality as was Lennox Lewis while residing in Britain.

    Xuxa is as Brazilian as is Pele despite one being of North European descent while the other of Sub Saharan African descent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuxa
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelé

    Stefanos Miltsakakis is Greek and doesn't resemble Lomachenko
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0590719/

    There are also black Greeks just as there are black Ameircans, black Israelies, black Spaniards, black French etecetera.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigrants_to_Greece
     
  3. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Seriously? Greek is a nationality and Greeks are an ethnic group. Jofre was born in Brazil and is a Brazilian citizen, so he has Brazilian nationality but he is an ethnic Greek (and Italian). I was talking about ethnicity since I mentioned ancestry. I never mentioned nationality.
     
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  4. wifly

    wifly Active Member Full Member

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    Vasyl Papadopoulos Lomachenko
     
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  5. lepinthehood

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    Better than Hercules?
     
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  6. Radrook

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    Common ancestry need not indicate common ethnicity. They can be mutually exclusive. One identical twin raised by Christians and the other raised by Muslim's are members of two different ethnic groups while being of the same nationality. Common ancestry means nothing in such cases since culture is the determining factor.
     
  7. Ilesey

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    Raaaaaaarrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!111

    Excuse me, sorry.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Well his Dad's name is Anatoly. Which is a Russian and Ukrainian name derived from the Greek Anatolios. So you know what that means right? He's a Ukrainian guy with a name derived from the Greek Anatolios.:deal:
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Loma said his great-grandfather on his mother's side is of Irish extraction and that there's a lot of Albanian blood on his father's side.
     
  10. slender4

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    Hercules had a good right hand.
     
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  11. DirtyDan

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    It's a known fact that Achilles was the greatest Greek fighter ever born. His reflexes made Whitaker look like Margarito.
     
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  12. mirkofilipovic

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    He's actually Peruvian. The name Loma is another way of saying Lomo Saltado, which is a popular Peruvian dish. His great great Uncle on his aunts side was born next to a man from Peru, and according to Peruvian Iberian rules, anybody born next to a Peruvian is officially 2/4 Peruvian by blood. Also his great great great grandfathers godfather was having an affair with a Peruvian woman.
     
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  13. On The Money

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    Alexander would kick his ass h2h
     
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    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zambidis would of made a great boxer he hit like a heavyweight great fast hand speed and great combination puncher. I could imagine him absolutely destroying a plodder like canelo
     
  15. SOUTHERMOST

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    You are leaving an open window for the Great Greek to escape do you imaging if he got beat by an old smaller man this will be the greatest tsunami in boxing.