After bout Analysis of Mayweather vs McGregor

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Flatlander, Aug 27, 2017.


Was Mayweather Hurt By Conor's Body Shot At The Start Of The 9th?

  1. Yes. It's Obvious.

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  2. No. Floyd Was Just ACTING

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Connor is from Dublin I think that`s in southern Ireland which isn`t in Britain, Northern Ireland is in Britain, the English government split Ireland and made threat agreement with the Northern Irish that`s why the IRA started bombing Britain and even tried to blow up Margret Thatcher planting a bomb the Brighton hotel she was staying at.
     
  2. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, indeed, however there was an unbelievable amount of hype over here in the UK for the McGregor fight. I heard that UK ppv buys were over 1.5 million, so they clearly bought the fight despite Conor not technically being from the UK.
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Canelo would have beaten Floyd at 154 any time from a year after their catchweight fight, onwards.
    Probably also Lara and both Charlos would beat him.


    At welter and below, I'd pick Floyd over anybody but Thurman, Spence and Crawford.
     
  4. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Many.

    Thurman
    Spence
    Canelo
    Crawford
    Charlo
    Porter (possibly)
    Lara (possibly)
     
  5. Drachenorden

    Drachenorden Active Member Full Member

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    I didn't really get a feeling what the atmosphere was like before the match because I came to conclusion that forums are just a massive waste of time and only attract losers and idiots, that's why I didn't post here or anywhere in the lead up to the fight, but from what I saw in the media there was some massive delusion and mass hysteria going on, I can't even imagine what it was like here or on MMA boards. I just briefly came back to check what the reactions are like because I'm still perplexed as to why so many people thought this was going to be some sort of real fight or were even giving McGregor a chance. It's like people were collectively fooled by a con artist.

    I think the MMA community in particular discredited itself big time, especially all their analysts and "experts". First of all, I can't imagine why an MMA fan would want their biggest star go into boxing, as a boxing fan I definitely wouldn't want to see top boxing stars go to MMA for cash grab fights just to make fools of themselves (like Toney did). Second of all, the way they collectively disrespected boxing was just completely ridiculous and embarrassing.

    The funniest thing was that the MMA fans and some of their analysts and journalists created some strawman where the world of boxing is this backward reactionary system where supposedly every boxer boxes the same and follows exactly the same fundamentals and somehow McGregor will bring some "unorthodox" techniques, as if the entire sport of boxing has been full of totally dumb people for more than 100 years and some random young MMA fighter suddenly knows more about every single one of them. As if there wasn't a ton of kickboxers, muay thai fighters and karatekas transitioning to boxing in the past... In reality, every single elite boxer has a style of his own and brings something new to the table, the whole point of boxing is to be unorthodox in your own specific way that suits your style. Ironically the only success McGregor had in the fight was due to boxing fundamentals like using (or at least trying to use) his jab and some crude boxing footwork. His timing and counters are nothing unorthodox either and nothing we haven't seen before. So where was that Bruce Lee ****? Whenever he tried something weird it just looked foolish and his bad habits from MMA like trying too hard to grapple in the clinch cost him energy.

    The entire build up for the fight was basically one huge systematic attack on boxing, I've never seen any other sport publicly disrespected like that. It was like boxing has to be destroyed for some reason. People were literally cheering for the demise of boxing.

    The funniest thing is that they're now giving Colin or whatever his name is a participation trophy and are praising him even though he talked a ton of **** and had all the idiots betting on him. I couldn't believe how much the betting line moved. This just shows you how quickly a young confident guy who shouts empty slogans can con people.

    At the end he pretty much embarrassed MMA because he destroyed that MMA tough guy myth. For all his talk about shin bones smashing nose bones in MMA, in boxing he quit and completely folded under pressure against an old retired 40 years old 25 pounds smaller defensive boxer who was never known as a puncher and never stops anybody. The 28 year old MMA stud was exhausted and the 40 year old retired boxer was completely fresh. I hope all those "MMA is tougher than boxing" morons shut up forever now. Their top star is clearly mentally weaker than even boxing journeymen. Just like Paulie said, he didn't want to be in there, didn't want to show any signs of life and was waiting for the ref to save him. He's a typical bully who has no fight in him if things don't go his way. I can't believe this guy got so popular. Also his mythical "power" (I remember that DKSAB MMA coach Firas Zahabi relentlessly talking about "the touch of death") got exposed as being bellow average by boxing standards.

    Anyway, like I said, I prefer to be productive and don't have time to post on forums so this is my last post here, I just had to comment on this historic shitshow. Just like there are things that leave you speechless there are also things where you simply have to leave your comment and this is a situation like that. It was actually pretty fun following this circus. I never had any doubt that Floyd is going to win easy, I just couldn't see a path to victory for McGregor.
     
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  6. JeremyCorbyn

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    Just to be a little bit pedantic, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom, but not GB (which consists of England, Wales and Scotland).
     
  7. Dubblechin

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    No he wouldn't. Couture punches like a girl. I've seen tougher fights than Couture-Toney in a living room between brothers ... before their mom came in and told them to stop. Joshua isn't some obese, slurring, 40-something dwarf like Toney.

    Those MMA guys can't take a punch. They don't have endurance. Their best was exposed the first time they fought a 40 year old boxer with a pulse.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  9. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    Great post. To be fair there were only a tiny few on here saying McGregor had a chance, they were in the vast minority, I wont name them, but they know who they are. And that minority also had a few cheerleaders who didn't quite have the balls to come out and say McGregor was going to win themselves, but as I say they were standing on the sidelines waving their pompoms (or the like button), but again, I wont name them, they know who they are.

    The MMA community though, on twitter, youtube and all the rest of it... deary me... I shudder to think what the average IQ is with that lot.
     
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  10. Beouche

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    Marquez could have come out of retirement, hobbled down the ring, slid in ala Vince McMahon and still kicked that version of Floyd's ass
     
  11. shortlefthook

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    You didn't learn anything from the toney fight did you?
    He shoots a takedown right off the bat, joshua has no choice but to defend via sprawl, a guy like couture is going to get deep enough on a complete wrestling novice.
    You sound just as delusional as people thinking conor had a chance.

    Floyd at 40 still beats pac, Berto, ect.
    Couture at 47 wasn't a top contender
     
  12. AWNP

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    Conor does not deserve credit and ill tell you why:

    He specifically targeted Floyd. His main reason for targeting Floyd was that he thought he had a better ring IQ than Floyd. It also helped that Floyd fits the dimensions of a perfect Conor Mcgregor opponent (small).

    Remember Conor Mcgregor is his own biggest fan, he believes he is the best fighter in the world, a once in a lifetime figure.

    Everything he said in the build up to this fight was 100% what he thought:

    Boxing is limited - 1/2 a fight
    Floyd is a brittle hand *****
    Floyd is an old man
    No one can match his pace
    No one can take his punch
    I can beat any version of Floyd

    He also was dismissive of other fighters - Canelo, GGG, Terrence Crawford, Lomachenko

    Do you think for 1 second had he somehow beat Floyd he would had retracted any of these statements? he tried to clown our sport and he dug himself into a grave. Check back all of his buildup footage he has said no stone has been left unturned, his best camp ever etc....

    So sorry Conor, there is no consolation prize, we don't care what you have to say, we don't care for your compliments. You are not humble, you were humbled there's a difference.

    And to all you Conor/MMA fans who still want to argue the point. The fight is done. Floyd, the old brittle hand *****, managed to run through the supposed baddest man in MMA and that's all there is to the story.

    Hey its ok, you can still cling on to the thought that "in a real street fight" blah, blah, blah.....TKO10
     
  13. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Curran fight made me feel sick..Could've killed him it was that bad. Perfect fight to show for the anti mma/combat brigade on why it should be banned. No protection what so ever for Warren
     
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  14. Radrook

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    I used to push myself to the limit without knowing I had asthma and the only symptom was being extremely winded constantly gasping for air and unable to properly execute the movements for lack of getting enough oxygen to my muscles.

    I never suffered or suffer any sudden spontaneous attacks. However, I have personally witnessed cousins who were asthmatics and suffered sudden asthma attacks without being involved in any physical exertion. Such were triggered by emotional distress and even exposure to sunlight. My asthma just results in my getting winded and staying winded while others either don't get winded or recover quickly. That to me looks similar to what Connors experiences.

    BTW

    In hindsight, I now realize that I was actually risking a heart attack. Especially since the instructor would close all windows during the hot summer evening while denying us the right to drink waters all during the 2 1/2 hour training ordeal. The overhead fans appeared to have been set to rotate at what seemed slow motion. He also had this jade Buddha fountain with water spurting from the head and meandering down his chest and rotund belly in our plain sight. That made the thirst agonizingly worse.

    Some students actually toppled over while the sifu smiled scornfully. What helped me was that I perspired copiously which helped keep me cool. Other members who didn't sweat as much appeared to be on the verge of death. I am surprised that nobody has actually died at that place yet.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

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    You mean Couture saw a short, obese, brain damaged Toney slowly shuffling toward him, and he lunged down and grabbed the old punchy guy's leg and tripped him. Then he sat on the punchy guy's chest and threw weak arm punches that did nothing at all, and when the obese punchy guy leaned back on the ground, Couture squeezed his neck and the obese punchy guy tapped out.

    I've seen brothers lunge down and grab a leg, trip each other, throw pitty pat head punches with nothing behind them while they sat on their chests, and then one grabbed the other by the head and squeezed until the other yelled ... before MOM came in and said break it up.

    That 'event' was a joke. And you think Couture would do the same to a giant, powerful banger like Joshua?

    Again, the MMA guys never fight a PRIME TOP LEVEL boxer ... it's always someone in their 40s, who are damaged and have been out of it for while.

    This time, the 28 year old MMA star picked the 40 year old retiree who wasn't slobbering on himself and the 28-year-old threw arm punches for 15 minutes or so before getting tired. And when even a modest-punching fighter like Mayweather landed, McGregor was reeling all over the place.

    Again, if McGregor fought someone his own age and size, like Jermall Charlo, Conor would've been knocked out inside a round. McGregor's punches were COMICALLY weak.

    This event "exposed" everything.