Vasyl Lomachenko the Best Greek fighter of all time?

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  1. elmerbud

    elmerbud Member Full Member

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    Tyras (Τύρας) - modern Belgorod-Dnestrovskiy, where Loma is from, was founded by immigrants from the ancient Greek city Miletus (Μίλητος) in the VI century BC. E.
     
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  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Keiv Rus move into Odessa is well documented, the Slavic speakers started settling the Odessa urban zone in the 1800s, with a later move to the countryside, the Greek enclaves remained isolated & were the last to be assimilated. The Greeks were actually good citizens in the eyes of all governments as they were good Tax payers & always accepted the rules of newcomers, until Stalin came & caused a lot of problems in Ukraine that included the Greeks also, this forced the assimilation of most Greeks via forced assimilation & proles intermarriage, the wealthier Greeks who tried to remain isolated got it worse, bitter communist proles hunted them down & they ended up shipped deeper into Asia.
     
  3. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He does look Greek
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Serge likes to tell little itsy-bitsy white lies sometimes.
     
  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    can i claim duran for Mexico
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I've been to Athens, I had a lot of Greek friends in school, I am Sparta.

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  7. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's good for the legend!
     
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  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    This is great news. Now Loma can sign a multi million dollar deal with Little Caesar's.
     
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  9. Ivo

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    I hope this is a joke because Loma has nothing to do with the Greeks. In fact it is more plausible that he has Bulgarian roots since many Bulgarians live in Ukraine. Second in size after Russian minority.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol it sure is.
     
  11. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We can assume you are referring to the Turkic Bulgars who were concentrated in Ukraine, before making their final move into Thrace.

    The enclave that Vasyl comes from is exclusively Greek, its not all of Ukraine which was settled by various people previous to the arrival of the Rus
     
  12. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am referring to Old Bulgarians who lived in Great Bulgaria (Caucasus mountains) and Bulgarians who have been living at The Balkans since 7th century AD.

    As I said Bulgarian is the third spoken language in the region after Russian and Ukrainian.

    Forget about the Greeks. Loma has nothing to do with them. He looks like the usual person of Slavic descent - Russian, Ukrainian or Bulgarian.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Joe Rogan...

    Corrects that Lomachenko is not Russian.

    Calls Golovkin a Russian.
     
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  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The ancient Bulgarians were not Indo-European, let alone Slavic & they did dwell near Kuban & possibly have Adyghe substratum, but the primary culture/language of the original Bulgarians was Turkic, the Adyghe substratum is possible.

    Modern Bulgarian is the main Slavic element in Southern Europe, don't forget the big Latin population that separates modern Bulgaria from Odessa (Romania/Wallachia/Moldavia).

    Ancient Bulgarians are the Turkic Asiatic tribes that crossed into Europe during the Avar Asiatic migration period. Bulgaria is very unique as it is...without the need for superficial identity, DNA tests of the Bulgarians shows them closer to Romanians more than any other Slavic population, so its important to remember that the majority of the subjugated peasants just follow the language of the conquering army (in Bulgaria case, the Bulgarian Empire)

    Same applies to Mexico & majority of the world, the average Mexican peasant is closer to Non-Latin speaking natives than to the Spaniards.

    Simple peasants (99% of any population) just adopt an identity they were taught its their identity by the elite ruling class & bet their life on it, which is a good deal for the elites (low cost peasant control method)
     
  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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