After bout Analysis of Mayweather vs McGregor

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Was Mayweather Hurt By Conor's Body Shot At The Start Of The 9th?

  1. Yes. It's Obvious.

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  2. No. Floyd Was Just ACTING

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I watched the replay tonight and changed my score again.:lol:

    Round 1 McGregor 10-9
    Round 2 McGregor 10-9
    Round 3 McGregor 10-9
    Round 4 McGregor 10-9 Close
    Round 5 Mayweather 10-9 Close
    Round 6 Mayweather 10-9 Close
    Round 7 Mayweather 10-8
    Round 8 McGregor 10-9 Close
    Round 9 Mayweather 10-9 Dominant
    Round 10 Mayweather Wins By TKO

    McGregor clearly won the first three, there's no debating that, and that had zero to do with Floyd "letting him" steal those rounds, McGregor's awkward angles, rhythm and timing, genuinely presented Floyd with a riddle, Conor clearly had power early, as evidence by the uppercuts and jabs snapping Floyd's head back, so Floyd didn't know where the shots were coming from and was afraid to let his hands go out of fear of a counter. He lost thse 3 rounds, he didn't give them away.

    The 4th round Conor took as well, the pop on McGregor's punches started fading, and that emboldened Floyd a little, and he started figuring out Conor's timing and found the range a little, but Floyd did too little to legit win the round, Conor was still more active. The 5th remained competitive, it wasn't a whitewash where Floyd completely took over, Conor switched to the Tyson Furyesque volume approach, and whether people want to admit it or not, those shots landed, and those shots counted. Floyd was potshotting one at a time, he did do enough to potshot his way to edging that one.

    The sixth was a little easier for Floyd, but it was similar to the fifth, no overwhelming shutout or schooling occurred. Floyd looked awkward and was still getting tagged far too much, his legs looks stiff and clearly walking down someone isn't his forte, but I think he had to commit to that strategy, because it was his only option, if he tried to outbox McGregor in the center of the ring, he would have failed. The master boxer couldn't decode the awkwardness of McGregor, so he had to go caveman on him and do his best Maidana impression to win this match. The seventh Floyd took over and was fairly dominant, he found the proper range and landed several hurtful shots, probably aside from the 9th and 10th his best round.

    The eighth I initially scored for Floyd, and I was shocked to see Farhood score it for McGregor, so I really wanted to pay attention to it the second time I scored it, and I'll be damned, we were all wrong, and Farhood was right, McGregor was consistently making Floyd miss, all the while doing his best Calzaghe-Lacy impression, pitty patting the hell out of Floyd, he landed a ****ton on Floyd in the eighth, and while the few shots Floyd landed was almost enough to shade the round, it wasn't quite enough to swing it towards him.

    The ninth Byrd probably intentionally blew McGregor's big moment, Floyd was clearly hurt by the shot to the body, it wasn't a low blow, it was a hook, had Byrd allowed Conor to continue going to work, Floyd may have ended up taking a knee, but Byrd gave Mayweather time to recover, and in all likelihood based on how bad he was hurt decided to really set down on his shots and go for the KO, that coupled with Conor gassing, that was the beginning of the end.

    The tenth, Conor was done, he was completely gassed, it was just a matter of time, Byrd's stoppage was fine.

    But here's the reality, Floyd looked bad, his timing was off, his control of range was off, his defense was off, he was slow and he was forced into becoming a come forward plodder, not because he wanted to entertain the fans, not because he wanted to pay them back for letting them down with the Pac performance. He did it because that was the only way he could beat McGregor. He was in the ring with the better faster, slicker until he gassed counter puncher, who threw Floyd off his game entirely, who forced Floyd into doing something completely against his nature, he made him fight like a Mexican.:lol:

    And all the fanboys who hate that style of boxing, who only seem to see clean counters from Floyd, and never notice all the shots landed by effective aggressors hailed Floyd for taking the fight to Conor and fighting like a beast, and only seemed to notice the shots landed by the aggressor Floyd this time, and conveniently ignored all of the clean sharp accurate counters Conor landed, and his effective underrated defense.:lol: Lovers of defensive fighting turned into bloodthirsty fans of hunter killers and only saw what they wanted to see, I loved seeing Floyd fight like that, I wish he'd have done that his entire career, but in doing so, he also managed to give up a ton of rounds eat a hell of a lot of clean shots that he tried to avoid, but couldn't, and arguably on a fair scorecard, needed a stoppage or KD for a decisive win, because make no mistake, Conor would have been ahead if Floyd wasn't the name here or if this were in the UK.

    But bravo to Floyd, he put on a hell of a show, bravo to McGregor, he impressed the hell out of me, and its a pity he didn't pursue boxing instead of MMA, because as a one fight novice, he did better than Pacquiao, Guerrero, Canelo and Cotto did, imagine Conor starting out small, and working his way up the ladder, having Floyd as his fifth fight or so after some warm ups with Malignaggi, Van Heerden, Jo Jo Dan and Alexander, and worked out his stamina issues, learn to set down on his shots a little better and various other tweaks he could have made, you never know, he may very well have beaten Floyd that night.

    At least Floyd ended on a high note from an entertainment perspective, and in the end Boxing won, so thank you Floyd.:deal:
     
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  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I cannot watch it. It is a joke.. Sparring match and people paid good money. Floyd fooled everyone
     
  3. BCS8

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    They had a pre-fight agreement to keep it to striking. Sylvia was not going to take him down. And I agree that it was completely predictable that a world class boxer was going to outbox a guy like Sylvia.
     
  4. Erik

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    What's funny is that after everything that was said in the build up to this farce, Conor McGregor has some of the most pathetic punching 'power' I have ever seen in a professional boxing ring. The guy legit punches like girl. And then to top of it, the 40 years-old, retired, 20lbs lighter Mayweather, was physically stronger up close and in the clinch and bossed McGregor with ease lol.
     
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  5. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Claressa Shields would probably beat the crap out of McGregor






















    in a street fight.
     
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  6. JeremyCorbyn

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    Boxing weeds out these tomato cans who can't react to a shot coming and have glass jaws, they generally don't make it to world level, where as MMA doesn't.

    People might say "well what about Amir Khan", well even he is only getting knocked out by the sweetest of shots. You could give McGregor a free shot at Khan's chin and it would do nothing.

    I bet if you put Paulie into MMA with a little bit of training, he knocks these guys out quicker than McGregor.
     
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  7. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good point. They are not identical.
     
  8. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said the same thing myself to someone. Someone with Paulie Malignaggi's power and Amir Khan's chin would be a granite chinned power puncher in MMA.

    It's all about levels and MMA is still a low level sport.
     
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  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    They had a pre-fight agreement of striking at one point. Then that was removed. Legit MMA contest.

    Sylvia kicked him for god's sake, in the first 4 seconds of the fight before being put to sleep before the 10 second mark.

    “That was my stupidity. It was the dumbest thing that I could have ever done. As soon as it was switched to Mixed Martial Arts I should have went in there and took him down and ended the fight in 30 seconds but I listened to his mouth run and I thought I could stand with a heavyweight boxer with four ounce gloves. Obviously, it didn’t work out the way I wanted it to but I did fight in September and that went well against a pretty decent up-and-comer (Jason Riley).”

    Source:
    http://www.fightopinion.com/2010/05/19/tim-sylvia-ray-mercer/

    Sorry if it hurts your feelings. But with what you've said in this thread, your own words, you acknowledge that this is on a 100% par with Couture vs. Toney, which you also stated was the premier example of "boxing vs. MMA."
     
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  10. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some people who aren't physically large or muscular are gifted with abnormal strength. I met two of such individuals. Nothing about their appearance indicated unusual strength-not muscular definition nor bulk. Yet when you tried to wrestle them, it was totally overwhelming. That despite the fact that at the time I was lifting weights like crazy. So if he was being genuinely overpowered on the inside in clinches it would not surprise me. What does surprise me is a martial artist behaving as if he doesn't know how to put force into his strikes.
     
  11. 3rdegree

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    The eventual demise of boxing will force many on here will to pick up a new hobby.As boxing PPv worthy fights get fewer and farther between, more and more realistic fans will have to turn to the obviously superiorcombat sport for entertainment. Thanks to Conor the writing is on the wall and anywhere else you care to look.
    You simply can't underestimate the toll of having your first professional match under intense circumstances had on Conor. The truth is Conor did amazingly well over the first four rounds until the fatigue,not Floyds skill level, became an obstacle he couldn't overcome. Conor looked like the superior fighter during the early going.The fight showed that mma fighters are just as good and possibly better with their hands if a novice at boxing could neutralize and punish Floyd at will.
     
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  12. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I gave the first few rounds to Connors as well and had some of the other rounds competitively close.

    BTW
    Barring his being an asthmatic, I find the sudden fatigue of this trained professional athlete puzzling.
     
  13. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A Prime top p4p MMA fighter known for his power getting walked down and stopped by a man 40 years old and 2 weight classes smaller, Floyd showed he had more power than Conor too. People can paint the narrative they want but deep down, it did kill a bit of Conor's mystique. A lot of people were expecting him to be punching like Maidana, not Paulie! Dana White , Joe Rogain etc can say they are proud of him, but months ago when the fight was mooted, they were saying he'd walk Floyd down and there's no way Floyd can stop him.

    Millions of new eyes on boxing saw that.
     
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  14. BCS8

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    From your quote:

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    That is all.
     
  15. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    His tiredness grew to exhaustion from round 6 through 9.It was a gradual process and totally predictable if you noticed the cues.