Is this true about Muhammad Ali and Henry Cooper

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  1. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nice try but yes they 100% cheated and Ali was not "fine" and would have been stopped
     
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  2. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he got quite a few gift decisions and in no way was the greatest.
     
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  3. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they gave ali something a bit stronger than smelling salts in that corner.
     
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  4. HerolGee

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    he did ease up, from the 8th round, but theres truth also in what you say that his corner urged him to knock him out later, and he responded with that uppercut that put ali on the ropes. Truth is he could have landed that blow at any time from round 6 onwards.

    I have seen the fight.
     
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  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    ali ripped cooperman's face to bits at will both times they fought, inside half the scheduled rounds. The only time copper landed on ali effectively was that one time when ali was waving to someone in the crowd and then BOP! he paid for it. Every other minute of both fights , he was clowning Coop.

    Anyone trying to argue that ONE PUNCH out of two fights was some kind of indicator of the direction in the fight and an indicator of their comparative talents, but ignoring that practically every other punch and hussle was won by Clay easily, is mor.onic way beyond tko6 denial.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He weighed under 190 for at least 30 of his 55 pro fights and he was only above 14st once. Ali had over 20lbs on him in their first fight ie. the one Cooper dropped him. Cooper would've been perfectly suited to CW when the limit was 13st 8lbs.
     
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  7. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Proof?
     
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  8. Clinton

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    "WOULD have been stopped"? He may have been dazed, but he was up immediately after the knockdown. And he was known for his tremendous recuperative powers.
     
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  9. Clinton

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    Kinda reminds me of the gift Lennox got against Mercer.
     
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  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're wastin' your time arguin' wi' daft gobshytes, Clinton.
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    As he was he was by far the best heavyweight Champ EVER!! Dont forget he was banned for THREE & A HALF YEARS in his prime years too Imagine what he could have been
     
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  12. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Finally a sensible and knowledgeable post...who are these Morons that get on here and make insane Post's they can not be true Boxing Fan's surely....
     
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  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    They're kids & trolls who have no clue about the sport sad people really
     
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  14. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Henry Cooper was that Badly beat up that night His own Mum did not recognise Him...
     
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  15. Radrook

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    Why would I assume that you haven't seen the fight while offering opinions on it? That would be totally idiotic. There are plenty of instances where people see the same fight event and totally disagree on many points. Nothing unusual.
     
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