After bout Analysis of Mayweather vs McGregor

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Flatlander, Aug 27, 2017.


Was Mayweather Hurt By Conor's Body Shot At The Start Of The 9th?

  1. Yes. It's Obvious.

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  2. No. Floyd Was Just ACTING

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  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His entire game is built off confidence. He just took by far his career biggest beating by a tiny 40 yr old. Confidence lost.

    Mcquitter believed 100% fact he was running through or over little grandpa fmj
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Raymond Mercer aka one of the toughest, most granite-jawed boxers to ever step foot in ring talking about what it's like to get kicked in the head by a kickboxer.

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    Imagine if Sugar ''Money'' Mack was allowed to use kicks against Floyd. Try using the shoulder roll to avoid these lol

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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    What business does a 40 year old have doing in a octagon?

    All this ''imagine'' ''imagine'' talk is quite frankly pointless. Imagine if Floyd was allowed to bring with him his goons into the boxing ring and they were all armed with AK47's against Conor, who would win?

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    It's the same useless hypothetical scenario that has no relevance to the fight itself.
     
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  4. elmaldito

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    wrong boxing money is what derailed his mma career. get used to him.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Sugar ''Money'' Mac whoops a 40 year old Floyd in the Octagon, a 30 year old one, a 20 year old one. It makes no difference Floyd is getting his ass handed to him and he isn't making it out of round 1.

    It's not pointless Sugar ''Money'' Mac fights under MMA rules, Floyd couldn't hang with him under his code whereas Mac was able to make it very competitive fighting in Floyd's realm. Age, size, inactivity blah blah blah fact is it shouldn't have been remotely competitive for 30 seconds. It was a big moral victory for Sugar ''Money'' Mac and MMA. Floyd let boxing down in a big way.
     
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  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Firstly Conor fights in a weight class he doesn't belong in when competing in MMA, this is why he is a fraud. Secondly it wouldn't take much for a prime Floyd to beat Mcregor in the octogan, considering Conor's main approach is stand up striking with the few Hollywood ''for show' karate kicks.

    Floyd or any elite boxer simply needs to be trained in taking and defending against kicks/take down attempts which can be learned over a period of time. Then he'd pick the glass jaw bums in there, apart with his hands.

    He obviously train, similar to how Conor needed to train for this fight. Obviously if he went to MMA straight away with limited training Conor would win however it sounds as if you believe he beats a prime pretty boy floyd who was one of the most accurate fighters in the history of the sport.

    It's not impossible to cross disciplines into MMA from another sport. Fighters are fighters. As long as you're a master at one skill and know how to defend against the others, you can win fights and dominate. Holly Holms did it and destroyed Ronda Rousey with ease. People blinded through their hatred for Floyd seem to convince themselves that he doesn't hit hard (misconception considering most boxers have great chins and hearts and do not look for a way out as soon as the going gets tough, plus he's using gloves with more padding).

    Since you enjoy using your imagination, you can imagine him hitting people with 4 oz gloves when he was giving Conor seizures and brain damage with just 8 ounce gloves

    I have little doubt that a prime Floyd or any prime boxer for that matter probably would have their way with most of the irrelevant bums in MMA.

    Have you seen the standard of opponents Mcregor went through? 95% of them looked like they were literally dragged off the streets, to fight him at the last minute.
     
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  7. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Online boxing fans are so fake, full of **** and know it all's. Connor did way better than anyone expected, I didn't even expect him to land one clean punch. But he won rounds, landed shots and made it into the 10th. And he was never hurt, took all of Floyds biggest shots and just sat there with his hands down gasping for hair.

    Why are boxing fans so damn uppity and snobby that they won't admit that an mma guy was able to cross over sports with 0 experience and be competitive with one of this generation's best?
     
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  8. Serge

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    Sugar ''Money'' Mac cuts a lot of weight but most UFC fighters cut a ton of weight.

    And yes Sugar ''Money'' Mac is a stand up fighter. However, he isn't and he wouldn't be restricted to just using his hands in the Octagon if Floyd crossed over to his domain, which he never would. He'd kick the living **** out of Floyd with his legs. High kicks, low kicks, front kick, spinning back kicks etc. and Floyd's shoulder roll defence wouldn't save him lol.

    And Sugar ''Money'' Mac can take it down to the ground and submit Floyd or ground 'n pound his face into mush if he so chooses. I can assure you even though he's a stand up fighter he's infinitely more adept and capable of doing so than Floyd is at defending against it. Sure Floyd could learn take down defence but it takes time to become good at it. Sugar ''Money'' Mac has being doing all of this in day-in, day-out in training for years. Just because he doesn't choose to use these things in fights that often doesn't mean he can't do them or wouldn't be way, way better at them than Floyd. If he stood and tried to box with Floyd in the Octagon it would be stupid beyond words. The smart thing to do is to take it down to the ground ASAP or use kicks.

    Floyd is a great fighter but Sugar ''Money'' Mac exceeded everyone's wildest expectations against him in his first ever pro boxing bout. Like I said, it shouldn't have been remotely competitive but it was. 0-0-0 rank novice Sugar ''Money'' Mac caught Floyd with some classy counters, shots that plenty of actually world class boxers wouldn't have been able to land. He has very fast reflexes and anticipates things very quickly.

    And Mac has fought good guys in the UFC lol. I get it you hate the UFC/MMA but c'mon, dude lol
     
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  9. 3rdegree

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    I'll tell you why they are so uppity,it's because their worst fear has been realized by MgGregors incredible performance. If they were fans of both sports,like I am, they could be objective about the situation.
     
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  10. Paranoid Android

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    Fight was fixed AF. And STILL! 49-0 (officially) or 46-3 (rightfully).
     
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  11. BCS8

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    Well said. PBF would get his knees snapped off in about 30 seconds in the cage. LOL at Conor saying "he's got the tools for MMA". Floyd isn't stupid enough to get lured into those deep, blue waters where sharks may lurk.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Truth^ I expected Floyd to clown him. If somebody told me Conor would be able to take a round off Floyd before the fight I would have laughed him out the room. He may have taken as many as 4 off him. Floyd just can't handle the pressure; never could.
     
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  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Show me the other fighters who were cutting down over 30lbs in weight, to the point where they began to look as though they had just escaped from Auschwitz? Conor starved himself so badly with his extreme weight loss, that he has now been advised medically to stop for the sake of his own health

    Face it, Conor should have been fighting men his own size, not being a man who is 5'9 170lbs and fighting guys who stand at 5'6 and weigh only 140lbs. How anyone can justify that let alone call it great work, is truly a mystery. What we should be talking about is what a man of his equal size from boxing, such as GGG would do to Conor in the octagon. However since you enjoy talking about about a 40 year old man, since it's easier to envisage your hero conquering such an individual in a cage with limited rules, we shall still go ahead take the time to dismantle this misconception and false belief based on nothing but wishful thinking.

    This mythical fight which you enjoy fantasising about, floyd wouldn't use the shoulder roll to avoid his pointless kicks which he rarely uses. He'd simply use superior footwork to keep range just like how Holly kept her range from Rondey's kicks and take down attempts.

    Why don't you show me when Conor took an elite fight to the ground and submitted them? Last time I saw anything from his fights, he done everything he could to avoid going to the ground against that little manlet he faced in Chad Mendez, who barely had any preparation, yet still gave him hell.

    All Floyd has to do is learn and train take down defence, getting back to the feet after a take down, and kick-defence which would take him around 9 months to become sufficient and his supreme boxing will do the rest. Defending against kicks and grapples is far easier than actually performing them and far less taxing.

    We know it wouldn't take long to learn all of this, because many mma fighters take it up overnight and within a 24- 48 months, become World Dog fighting champions.

    Remember Floyd mastered boxing, a superior art, sport and discipline to UFC fighting and there is no reason to believe he couldn't have mastered and become dominate in the UFC in his prime. He has more discipline and dedication than all the glorified bums in MMA who treat it as a side show hobby.

    This is why the majority of it's participants are failed boxers because they couldn't cut in a sport where the talent pool is much deeper. Neither did they patience to learn one discipline. There are far more bums,laymen and beggars fighting in MMA than in boxing, so it is easier to be successful with less work.

    Lucas Browne predominately boxed on his feet when he was in MMA and took off all their chins with his bare hands. So don't tell me you need ground game to win in MMA

    Then you have the fat out of shape pensioner in Mercer who absolutely destroyed Tim sylvia with his bare hands. What did all that wrestling, ground game and karate kid kicks do for him here?

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    Let's not even get into the stamina issues Conor suffers with and the fact that he struggles to complete a 25 minute fight in MMA. Lets not go into what happens when a mma fight is hit and they turn their heads away because they can't deal with a punch and leave their chins hanging up in the air which most true boxers would have a field day exploiting.

    How about we take a look at what Ronda's kicks and ground game did for her against this female used her boxing ability? :lol:

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    Prime Floyd would do the same to Conor. Conor couldn't handle his arm shots that he wasn't even loading up on. He got brain damaged with 8 ounce gloves and you think he'd take his shots with 4oz? Come on, you are a reasonable poster, so stop indulging in fantasy and make believe perception.

    Conor is a pub fighter, Floyd is an elite once in a life time athlete who has broken a multitude of records.

    Lastly Conor exceeded no one's expectations, because people such as yourself where claiming and expecting him to KO floyd if he landed any of his signature punches. Now you want to partake in revisionism and pretend that no one expected anything from Conor. Pure cowardly lies and lack of conviction to stand by previous predications, instead you pretend they didn't happen and now claim moral victory?

    There are no morals in Conor's world.
     
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  14. BCS8

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    I didn't read that but just want to say the way Floyd tried to get Conor to spoon him was a bit ... fruity :b2:
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    What's funny is the amount of indistinguishable bums Mcregor went through in order become a legend in MMA

    Bums and midgets who never stood a chance!

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    4 credible wins with zero title defences, with 3 losses on record and suddenly you are a mythical indestructible God in MMA. :lol:
     
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