WBSS

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by oiky, Sep 4, 2017.


  1. Matt Petley

    Matt Petley Active Member Full Member

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    its on the itv box office channel on Saturday for free, although i read something about it not being shown live.
     
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Groves v cox is poor as a ppv. Same with eubank v his opponent. Beyond a joke now. Starting to make eddie hearns ppv,s sound like a bargain. Dont see the point of the tournament if your gonna need to pay for a lot of it. Think a lot of boxers are getting greedy nowadays.

    The tournaments a chance to become genuine ppv material. No one on that list should be pay per view at this point unless the dance partners a top contender. Groves v froch 1 was free. Now we,ve to pay for groves v cox. Seems like we,re seriously regressing.

    I like groves and eubank junior. But lets be honest...eubanks best wins an old blown up abraham hes also lost already and groves is probably degale in a terrible fight years ago when they we,re both novices. Lost 3 times already to boot. Cox and the guy eubanks fightings also achieved very little.

    When will they learn. Get these fights on for free. Get the public interested in boxing again. Then take it from there.
     
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  3. I Shot JR

    I Shot JR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any combination of Groves/Eubank/Smith is verging on PPV for me.

    As for the rest of the tournament it looks like it'll be all on ITV4/Hub which is OK but a waste of the value of the rights.
     
  4. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It really isnt rocket science is it?

    What i dont get is for the WBSS there is a prize pool right? So the fighters are getting paid regardless!
     
  5. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? PPV should be for special fights only.
     
  6. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think so mate. Not really sure how the wbss thing works in terms of money but heard the pots pretty massive. If its a case of eubank and groves cant fight in it contractually unless its pay per view. Get them replaced with guys that can. This tournament looks great for getting guys fighting. The money seems to be there for it. Itvs on board. Everythings looking perfect.

    And then greed takes over. Even when the moneys there they still want more. Boxers greeds where the problem lies for me. Everyone goes on about the promoters...but the boxers are where the problem lies. How many million do you need. Some of them millions should be getting filtered down the sport anyway.

    Mayweather getting 200 million to fight a guy thats never had a boxing match. Then you ve got journeymen getting the life beat out them for 2 grand before expenses are paid out. Makes you wonder if anyone can get a hold of the sport.

    Groves made millions for froch. Hes financially secure for life. The chance to make millions after this tournaments still there yet he still wants to make people pay for a fight that wont even make him millions. They need to renegotiate these contracts both him and eubank.
     
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  7. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What have they achieved tho...none of thems the top of their divisions yet really. Groves got a world title but who was it against. They had to keep trying till he got the easiest one. Eubanks beat an old blown up abraham. And smiths not really fought anyone of note. Its getting ridiculous now.

    They,d be as well putting the fights on the same bill and then making it ppv. The only sensible way about it.
     
  8. Twentyman

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    What an awesome night of boxing that would be having all 4 fights on the one bill, I'd gladly pay £20 for that.
     
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  9. bbjc

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    Defo mate. Thats really the angle they should be going for if its to be ppv. Honestly wouldnt mind paying 20 quid. And letting them share the ppv money. Fed up of the same guys getting millions when the others seem to lose out everytime.

    Unsure why they never went for it in the first place anyway. With it being different nights easy to lose track of the tournament and start thinking of them as individual fights if that makes sense.
     
  10. crixus85

    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Should be easy enough to avoid the Usyk result, I've done it often enough over the years with really big fights. It's the cruisers, I am most interested in with its fabulous lineup. The s/middles have an odd selection, with in reality, several unproven boxers except for Groves. While the inclusion of Cox and Braemer surely, must be to make up the numbers. Still, I like tournaments, and hope it is a big success.
     
  11. liger1992

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    Floyd deserved that though. If the fight generates £1b then why shouldn't the fighter get a large chunk of that?
     
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  12. bbjc

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    You honestly think floyd deserved 200 million for that fight? I m not against guys becoming millionaires etc. But 200 million for what was basically an exhibition match. Theres something deeply wrong about that when you ve got guys getting the life beat out them for about 2 grand.

    Its the same with football nowadays. The powers in the hands of the players too much. As a result its the fans who need to pay more in the end and very little goes back to the less succesful guys. Its about time someone once and for all got control of boxing...and sorted it out. Take a percent off boxers after they ve made over say 10 million. Say 50 percent. Give him a 100 million with the other 100 going back into the sport. Otherwise dont sanction it.

    Never gonna happen...but would be an interesting concept. It might have made a billion dollars but for who exactly. Certainly wasnt the boxing fans or the sport.
     
  13. liger1992

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    Not just Floyd, I'm saying the fighters deserve to get paid from the majority of the pot. Floyd hit the jackpot as it was the easiest payday he could get but it's not his fault there was a huge demand for the fight.
     
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  14. bbjc

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    Not just bashing floyd mate. But even the so called billion pound generated. How much of that goes back into boxing. I d say not early as much as should be.

    Hence the reason when their is a tragedy in the ring its usually the fans thats asked to donate or fund raiser done by the boxers themselves. Im not knocking that...but its shocking that theres a man earning 200 million from the sport and yet no central pot for guys like duneckt or the guy that sadly passed away in dundee the other year or gerarld mclellan etc.

    I say take some of that money off them. No single person should be allowed to earn 200 million regardless of what they generate or what they do. Same with the casinos. Ticket sellers etc. Get a percentage off them. Again you ve probably got one guy that owns the venue taking all of the money. Or even vegas taking it all. Good for the vegas economy but not so good for the sport thats generating the money.

    Maybe then we,ll get tournaments like the wbss free...get people back into boxing again. And you ll end up generating even more. Not only that but you could make 8 guys putting it all on the line to become millionaires.

    Not just one guy getting it all or obscene amounts of money.
     
  15. S.K

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    Why shouldn't they be allowed to earn it? You realise that fight only made the money it made because Floyd was fighting? People paid to watch Floyd, so of course he should get most of the money.

    Same with footballers, fans and supporters are paying to watch the big team and so their players get big money.

    Btw, I'm not advocating these huge wages, but they definitely earned them.

    The problem lies with the fans and supporters. I hear football fans say 'season ticket prices are too high, sky sports costs a bomb' etc. Well then don't pay it. Simple as that.

    Same with boxing, imagine if sky's next couple of ppvs did extremely low numbers? They'd most likely scrap them.

    At the end of the day, the product is there, if you want to see it, you will pay. If you don't want to pay, that's entirely your choice. But if millions of people choose to pay, damn right it's the boxers who should get the biggest chunk, it's them who are putting their lives on the line.