Joe Joyce as a pro: how far can he go?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Sep 6, 2017.


Joe Joyce as a pro will be the next:

  1. Audley

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    11.1%

  2. David Price

    4 vote(s)
    8.9%

  3. AJ

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    0.0%

  4. Neither of them. TOP-contender but never wins the belt

    27 vote(s)
    60.0%

  5. Beltholder. Picks some belt for a brief period

    9 vote(s)
    20.0%

  6. Future ATG

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    0.0%
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  1. Fishers

    Fishers New Member banned Full Member

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    He's good he'll be a contender top 10 or top 15. But won't be a threat to the very best. European champion and world title challenger is my prediction. Better than Audley and Price , but not as good as Fury or Joshua. He only has a short window for paydays he'll have to be moved quick.
     
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  2. Fishers

    Fishers New Member banned Full Member

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    I've seen him display a good chin before. But I've also seen him KO'd by some unknown Morrocan in the 1st round ( video isn't on youtube). And KO'd here in 30 seconds by Sergey Kuzmin. So his chin might be an issue.

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  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    If he starts as well as Price he'll have to be good. Price went through fringe men very easily and inspired fear until the Thompson fights.
     
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  4. Max Thunder

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    Should run circles with the likes of Dilon Whyte and Chisora at the least.
     
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  5. Boxingfan200

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    I say have him do lewison then Leroy guy for the belt maybe defend it once then put him in with chisora to see how good he really is.
     
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  6. Howitzer1888

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    Joyce has a couple of things going against him. He started boxing late so some of his skills aren't great, particularly in terms of his defence. He is also pretty old for someone just turning pro. Chances are he is moved up too quickly and ends up losing on the way up the ranks. His chin is also questionable. Having said that, so was Joshua's when he was turning pro but his chin turned out to be good (but nothing more), so Joyce's could turn out to be the same.

    However, he is very large, very strong, hits hard and has a high work-rate and lots of stamina, which is an unusual combination of attributes to have. Also, considering the sort of people that can win a belt these days as well as the fact that the current division isn't very strong, he could definitely win a belt at his peak.

    Because of these question marks, there is a chance he won't do much beyond British level, or instead he could end up winning a belt. Realistically, I can see him being a top contender in the division with the chance of winning a belt.
     
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  7. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Belt Holder. No dominance
     
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  8. lepinthehood

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    He's very hittable
     
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  9. Espin88

    Espin88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Charles Martin can be a belt holder then so can Joe Joyce, although i think he will be protected for a long time once he gets a belt, much like Wilder.
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Martin only won a belt because the IBF are diks and the guy who was the actual mandatory's knee blew out. That kind of luck will take a long time to seen again by anyone.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Been working on his defence in the gym with his Cuban trainer Ismael Salas. The Cuban has trained a lot of excellent fighters.

    '60-year-old Salas has lead the corner of no less than 19 World Champions. His stable has included some of the greatest skilled fighters ever in both amateur and professional boxing.

    Within the amateur's he lead the corner for a number of Olympic stars including two-weight World Champion and Olympic Champion, Joel Casamayor Johnson, as well as three-time Olympic and six-time World Champion Felix Savon, whose success has unquestionably cemented him as a legend in the amateur ranks.

    Salas' professional success includes; WBA super-bantamweight World Champion Guillermo Rigondeaux, former unified featherweight World Champion Yuriorkis Gamboa, former four-weight World Champion Nonito Donaire, former two-weight World Champion Jessie Vargas and super-welterweight World Champion Erislandy Lara to name just a few. And he is the current coach of Ring Magazine and unified lightweight World Champion Jorge Linares, who has based himself in London for the foreseeable future.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    To be fair to him a lot of the top SHWs of recent years have been KO'd or stopped in the amateurs too, some multiple times

    All these guys have been stopped. There's more I'm forgetting as well.

    Yoka
    Nistor
    Vikhrist
    Dychko
    Joshua
    Sirenko
    Frazer Clarke (not sure if this one was a legit stoppage or on an injury)
    Eric Pfeiffer
    Yoandris Toirac
    Leinier Perot
    Jose Larduet
     
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  13. houmzz

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    The belt holder but not a brief belt holder
     
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  14. slender4

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    Don't know if he's the prospect that Dubois or Okoile* are. Third best prospect in your weight class in your division, not good.

    *I know Okoile is a CRSRWT, but not for long.
     
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  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Upper top 10 ..maybe 7/8 HW unless he tightens up defense.Hes also the slowest top fighter out there now. Heavy handed and decent skills but could be out boxed and against a true puncher will probably lose. Dont need to see him turn pro ,he probably beats most outside the top ten right now,( depending on who your top ten are. lol)
     
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