You said you knew all about me but can't even tell me my name? Typical... Obviously more than just 4 people train at the gym. Noted by him saying he has seen other beginners get pad work. Like I just said. He might not want to bother wasting his time working with someone who hasn't shown the dedication of the others that have repeatedly come back for 1+ years. Seems like your used to a life of luxury where you have to just ring a bell and you get whatever your heart desires. Welcome to the real world...
Any personal discussion that lead us away from the topic won't help aaalbert should cease or it will die as a low seriety thread. To me (amateur, not pro, former teacher/coach current president of a boxing gym in my city) a coach that doesn't care about a customer and doesn't approach him to do some technical corrections, give advises or even make a structured IS NOT making you learn/improve as a boxer and he's just someone that bought some equipment and think that makes a good gym (it clearly don't). We dont't have a lot of equipment but some heavy bags, a double end bag, pads and the ring but we care about every single person that join us, beginners specially to guide and motivate them into the sport. Again that my personal opinion. My country isn't a boxing's place at all and my gym isn't anything too shiny so I'm no authority in this, but a place where you pay to use equipment is not a boxing gym, it's just a paid show off or a scam.
When you cannot even address the on topic errors and insults you make off them why would anyone indulge your off topic errors as well? Who cares what your name is, you have told your rise to manhood story before, irrelevant. 4 people only in any session at any gym is a bad sign. Nothing to say about any of the other negatives in the previous posts, your answer for someone is cliched suck it up excuses for basic unprofessionalism and a "welcome to the real world" pronouncement. Rubbish.
Agreed. Sounds like you have a good team approach - critical when resources are scarce. My first gym was a converted engineering factory, tin walls and all freezing in the winter. Used to look forward to running to warm up! Now my city has four full time gyms in the CBD alone, one open 24/7, plus more in the suburbs Unprofessionalism does not cut it.
If you don't get attention even when the gym is low on visitors I'd advice you to leave. Staying there to prove yourself to some trainer (who is there for you) sounds like some macho bull. To show some entusiasm and tell a beginner to keep the chin down and guard up doesn't require much.
Exactly. The market is very competitive these days and there are a lot of excellent boxing people and facilities around but there will always be unscrupulous cash grabbers about. Obvious to anyone but our resident fool.
Hey guys! I just want to say, I really appreciate all the advice and comments from everyone and also want to apologize for starting any arguments because of my situation. After reading through everyone's comments thoroughly, all I can say is, I can definitely see and agree with both sides. And to give everyone some details of the gym as well as answer some questions: -The gym price is about $65 converting from JP Yen (average price is $75 plus) -Gym is super close to me, like 10min by bicycle -There are supposedly some "pros" that train you based on the website (about 5), although I've only seen about 2 and they left pretty quickly. Granted I've only been going for about a month but so we'll see... About the 4 people thing, that day I wrote my experience in the original post, yeah there were only 4 people including myself but there are other members there. (although to be honest, I've never seen more than 4/5 at any given time. A lot of the times I'm by myself...). From what I've noticed, there are more children and young people ranging from 5 to maybe 15 so his focus seems to be them. It seems he has a few champions in that age range... I guess what bothers me is that I'm really not getting anything out of being there, or at least I feel that way. And like I said before, I can understand both side of the coin on how, on one hand, yeah I am technically paying to use the equipment and on how, yeah it is the real world and I should be approaching him and being direct... But I think after doing about 6-8 rounds of skipping, 3 rounds of shadow boxing, (no mitts or sparring because, you know...), ab workout, and heavy bag work, you just get tired... That day, after doing everything and after doing my 9th or 10th round of hitting the heavy bag without nobody saying anything, I just thought.."So what am I doing here...?" I know I'm supposed to be strong and make the best of it and be active and ask. But it gets so damn disheartening and discouraging from not getting a turn on the mitts... to not being shown how to do your hand wraps for the first time and having to ask other fighters to help you... to not knowing if you have good form or not hitting the heavy bag while everyone is watching the new TV screen he installed... It gets discouraging to the point of not wanting to come back... And I hate that because I truly love this sport... I know it seems like petty things compared to what other fighters have to go through.. (That really sucks to hear, Mr.DagoWop but I'm glad you made the best of it) I mean, there are times where I would think, "OK, even though nobody is really teaching me anything, I'll show these guys that I can be the best!". But man is that hard! I have so many mixed emotions that I wish I didn't have. Honestly, even if he told me something like, "Ok Alberto, work on throwing the jab while walking for a few months to work on your form" or something simple like, I swear I would do it every single day without a word of complaining. But this... But anyway...I'm sorry for the ranting everyone. It's past midnight here and I really needed to get this off my chest for tonight. I'll go tomorrow morning again to the gym and see how it goes.. Thanks again everyone. You guys are awesome!
Ask him to give you one piece of advice on how to improve. For simplicity sake, I am assuming he is a legit coach/teacher. If you put yourself in his shoes, think about the countless people like you who have shown up in his gym. Think of how many people he invested mental energy to, only for them to never come back. From my experience, a good coach won't market themselves to you, especially not the first few weeks you're at the gym. They are not going to sell you on a vision of boxing glory. It's a dangerous sport, and they are not going to bear the moral responsibilities that comes with pushing someone into the sport. Ask him "Hey, I was wondering if you've seen me train at all, because I wanted to ask you if there was one major thing you think I should work on?" Until you've done that, don't overthink it. Asking that one little question could change everything...
I suggest to keep going to the gym you are currently at but try to go to another gym once or twice a week as well. If things are better there then go there instead but your coach might become better.
By the way, when the coach was doing mitts with everyone, and you felt he ignored you, were the other people amateur boxers who compete in matches?
If you get no advice or guidance at all you may improve your fitness but not your boxing. If the situation doesn't improve you must change trainer in order to be able to box. If a trainer can't invest "mental energy" in beginners leave. I don't buy that, teaching a newbie is easy and if a trainer can't be bothered to train beginners you'll NEVER get better. Stick around if you want to, maybe you made a hen out of a feather, or go to a new club where your love to the sport might be mutual.
Being far too lenient on the trainer IMO. I agree a good coach won't have to push himself but any professional should understand basic ccustomer service, indeed any human should show basic courtesy and good manners. Four people there, indeed it seems only a handful there at any time by the OP, and he should ask if the trainer has noticed him? What I hear is a burnt out trainer who has lost his passion for the sport - IMO students should not be paying to reignite it. The correct solution is for the trainer to find his professionalism or step away from the game.
Thanks for the added details, it was apparent from the first post that there were some serious issues to any person who takes the time to read. Any subsequent disagreement is not your fault but is solely down to this idiot dagowop.
it sounds like you picked this gym out of convenience of location, which is fine because you are new. is the next closest gym accessible to you? I like the advice from Reznik about asking questions. figure out ways to engage with the coach and teammates. if he has a small but somewhat successful amateur team then this might be a good place for you to learn once you put your time in. but if you do have other location options then go try them out. styles make fights, but before that the trainer personality needs to work with the athlete personality so the experience is forwarding. and this sounds like a great opportunity for a life lesson. you choose what you will practice; tools for waiting for stuff to happen, or tools to make stuff happen (whether that's there or another gym). whichever direction you take are the similar tools you'll use in the future whether its getting support from a professor in school, getting a date from that girl across the room, or getting a promotion from your employer. this may seem like a bit of a tangent but not really. essentially you're asking, "I have a goal. how do you suggest I accomplish it?" The specific goal is "learn to box". you figure out how to make that happen and don't let anyone stand in your way. adapt. boxing is a huge arena to learn life lessons as an individual in a team environment. take advantage of this experience. and let us know how it goes after you use Reznik's questions. good luck!