Will Wilder continue boxing after King Kong KTFO of him?

That might be so but as the saying goes "Nothing succeeds like success." This might be convincing Wilder that there is absolutely no need to modify his approach and that any attempt to fix what isn't broken-from his standpoint-will significantly increas the possibility of a loss.

He might also fancy himself as an unpredictable fighter who lulls his opponents to sleep with the idea that he doesn't know how to box and then surprises them when he suddenly explodes with a knockout punch.

 

So when the **** is the fight going to be announced(assuming it's even happening) It's already September... Year is 3/4th through, per usual absolutely ZERO build for his next fight... My guess is that another no hoper will step in on a few weeks notice.

 

One with chronic Achilles heel tendon problems or perhaps scheduled for major rotator-cuff surgery would nicely suffice for that no-hoper requirement I presume. Maybe King Kong is in that condition and Wilder doesn't know it.
Now that would be ironic!

 

This is a great point and believe its very close if not the flat out truth. This here is a losers attitude because you can get away with this to a certain point but when you start facing guys who have talent but also the work ethic to go with it is when you start seeing guys get exposed.

 

Not a fan of Wilder but I think he takes it. I feel he's going to be smart and use his length, /shrug

 

Yer if it is happening this year they are not leaving much time.. I wouldn't think Ortiz would be taking a "Wilder special" title offer because I would imagine he thinks he has a chance to win it so it would need to be a full camp build up etc.

More than likely Wilder will fight another bum and says Ortiz didn't want to meet him half way or just continue his bum tour with Stiverne...

 

Yup, that's his pattern. Call out decent fighters and then line up another tomato can to knock over.

 

Maybe Wilder prefers to let Ortiz ripen on the vine a little longer before going for the plucking. A few more facial sags, more indications of muscle and bone loss and reduced stamina and you will see Wilder then vehemently demanding that Ortiz fight him and accusing Ortiz of ducking him if he doesn't.

As the Spanish saying goes.

Del arbol caido todos quieren hacer leña .

Everyone wants to make lumber from a fallen tree.

 

Wouldn't shock me at all if Wilder won. Ortiz is overrated as you say, he has flaws as we saw against Scott. You don't want to stand in front of Ortiz but any movement and he struggles. He also only fights at one pace, I could see Wilder stealing rounds with little bursts of activity.

But Wilder looked so bad vs Washington. The way he struggled with Washington's jab, how badly he fell short with so many punches. Ortiz may not need to be that good to win. He just has to catch Wilder once when he over reaches.

 

I think that's absolutely the case. Wilder's already on record saying he loves his unorthodox style and it's clear he thinks he's king of the walk whenever he fights. He's had years to sort out his glaring flaws and he hasn't done so. Either he's unable to put into practice what his trainers are teaching him or he doesn't feel the need to put them into practice (or his trainers are just inept yes men). I'd be tempted to lean towards the latter, though I also won't be shocked if Wilder is genuinely trying to improve and just can't wrap his head around it. I don't think I've ever seen a top level fighter with less natural boxing ability, and his handlers obviously agree.

 

Scott was doing everything he could just to survive. He was making no attempt to actually win rounds and was hitting the canvas every time Ortiz hit him. It was one of those Coajnu type fights where the opponent's sole aim is to make the opponent look bad, and Scott still wasn't managing it that well, even with sizeable speed and length advantages.

If Wilder wants to actually beat Ortiz (providing he's even intending to get in the ring with him; I have my doubts) then he'll need to engage with him, and that's where Ortiz can counter and do damage. Needless to say, that won't end well for him.

 

This reminds me of a fight I saw when Larry Holmes was past his prime and attempting a comeback. It was a tune-up fight against this short flabbly HW who had only come to survive. All that the short, calm, almost bored-looking dude did was block, clinch and occasionally score with short, light jabs.

Holmes, for some reason, seemed unable to effectively penetrate his high guard and land something conclusive. So he spent the whole fight mostly pounding the midsection which, for some mysterious reason, seemed to have absolutely no effect.

On it went until approx. the twelfth round when the lard's corner told him to pick it up if he wanted to win. But he calmly resumed the same monotonous survival routine.

When finally the fight was over and Holmes was announced the winner, the survivor raised his hands triumphantly while looking at the TV camera and said:

"I did it! I did it!"

 

Jennings >> Stiverne

 

Once Wilder's glass jaw is exposed, he will continue to work as a "name" opponent for up and comers, getting knocked out with regularity like his predecessor in the Hype Job Hall of Fame, Michael Grant.

 

I actually think that a loss to Ortiz would be good for Wilder's career. With his cherry popped and his precious zero a memory, Wilder might just knuckle down and fight some serious opposition.