The sudden fall of Chocolatito

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  1. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a shame. Ive seen him live twice.
    I was at the Cuadras fight which I thought was fantasic but a what a war

    It seems that the death of his trainer, coupled with the move up in weight, and the wars, led to his downfall.

    I hope he can get a few more paydays before he retires.
     
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  2. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    I'd also add going over 30 for a flyweight is very tough. Speed is key down there and once that goes it's tough.

    Almost 37 year old rigo will be in the same boat soon enough
     
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  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He had "no fire" in his eyes last night after the first round. Those "give it all, take a bunch of punishment too" type fighters one nite just are finished. Plus he was fighting a bigger fighter, southpaw fighter, who considered himself the champion now.
     
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  4. Phelps-Brady

    Phelps-Brady Slicker than Raspberry ripple banned Full Member

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    It's not sudden. It's happened over 3 fights. Never thought he was the best anyway.. Oscar's BS Ring mag & Latino bias had him there, I didn't. Nor did many others...
     
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  5. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    What are you talking about GK?

    Roman Gonzales was the epitome of an HBO hype job
    They suddenly discovered him when he was 44 -0 around the time that there was a big whomp about Mayweather going 49-0. Believe if he had of made it they would say he was better.
    This hype for Gonzales and the most ignored flyweight division was all an HBO construct. Remember CST80 had a thread called "Get to Know a Flyweight" where he was trying to give those divisions exspoure on the board because no one looked past 135. Now here we are talking about Romans so called sudden downfall. His downfall is he let HBO executives tell him how to box.
    HBO wanted him to move up in weight all fast, they were trying to create a new Manny Pacquiao.
    Shame on HBO for destroying 3 careers so far this year.
     
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  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    a fighter falls off after years of beating the best... Yeah, he's always sucked!
     
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  7. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Don't you mean gift decisions from the best?
    Gift decisions in the Cuadras fight.
    Gift decisions in the Estrada fight.
    Gift decisions in the Rosas fight.
     
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  8. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HBO said Chocolitio had fought a bunch of fights in his career in Japan.
    Not sure if HBO meant that was good, or bad.
     
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  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    None of those were gifts.
     
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  10. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Cuadras fight was close
    If you call that a gift for Choco then you better call Ward Kov 1 a gift for Ward
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Eh, they kind of were, at least the last two, I scored the Cuadras match 7-5 for CC, and the Estrada match a draw, I haven't seen the first Rosas fight, so I can't comment.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Nah. Close but clear. Even if you thought they won, the most you could score it against Gonzalez is a round. Not quite "gift" territory.
     
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  13. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    No because everyone hates Ward at HBO , on boxing sites, and **** like that . They would never give Ward a gift decision.
    Gonzales was their new darling like Nonito use to be. He got gifts until they couldn't do it anymore.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't agree he was a hypejob, Roman is a lower division ATG, but the shameless way HBO shoved him down everyone's throat after they ignored the divisions for years came across as disingenuous as all hell and was elitist snobbery at its finest from that smug **** Max.
     
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  15. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    This is true, dude Max is the WORST. How many times did he repeat the, "ROMAN WON THE FIRST FIGHT, ROMAN WON THE FIRST FIGHT" Line yesterday.

    I'm glad he got shut up as well. I like Roman, but he is no p4p #1 fighter. That I knew from a very long time ago.
     
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