Helenius sparring with Joshua

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  1. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Three former world champions as weak as Martin and past their best lol. Whyte would beat all 3 and Helenius.

    Joshua >> anything Povetkin has done.
     
  2. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can keep up with the excuses... doesn't make what you're saying true. Helenius does not possess Wlad level power and would not stand a chance against Joshua.

    Helenius likely wouldn't land full power clean because Joshua is levels above him. Even if he did, I am confident that he would get up and finish the job like he did with Wlad.
     
  3. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brewster comparable with Frazier... what?? you are delusional.

    Peter has never been one of the two top HWs.

    Povetkin was the WBA regular champ for 2 years beating B level opponents before losing to Wlad comprehensively. Has fought B level fighters since without winning a world title. Joshua is the WBA Super & IBF unified champion with a win over Wlad and is rated the No1 HW by all credible sources. Keep preaching your hate... it's hilarious.
     
  4. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua's power is also levels above Helenius'.... not even a contest.
     
  5. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol being on a forum for a certain length of time does not equal length of time following boxing.

    Frazier is levels above Brewster... I can't believe you're insisting on comparing them.

    Peter beat nobody before his 1st defeat (to Wlad). His 19th fight was against Charles Sufford (20-5)...lol. His only decent wins before losing back to back against Vitali and Chambers was Maskaev (who already had 5 KO defeats on his record) and blown up MW Toney.

    Of course titles matter....:risas3: lol

    Joshua has accomplished more in 19 fights than Povetkin has in his entire career.
     
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  6. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol you are delusional... who has Helenius "destroyed" with his single right hand?

    Joshua throws combos with less power because they are much more accurate and effective than throwing one single bomb at a time. If Joshua loaded up for one shot I am in no doubt he would put a lot of fighters unconscious.
     
  7. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why would they waste their time with someone like Helenius? I hope he doesn't get paid at least but just uses this opportunity because he thinks he could gain something from sparring Joshua for his non-existent future career.
     
  8. Dfaulds

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    Clearly I meant Brewster and made a typo. It happens. Again not sure what your issue is with age?

    Peter could punch and that was it, even then he always got beat when he stepped up. Toney was not a good HW, he was a fantastic MW and SMW.

    Povetkin accomplished nothing and fought nobody until fight he beat past it Byrd (14) and over rated Chambers (15). He didn't even fight for a world title until his 22nd fight and even that was the WBA "regular" (not even the proper world title)

    Breazeale, Whyte, Martin > Stiverne, Duhapuas, Spzilka. Again Wilder has had 38 fights... Joshua has accomplished more than he ever will in half the time.
     
  9. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Good talk guys! I don't honestly see how Helenius doesn't have power anymore. People like to use single fights to prove their points so I will as well.

    Helenius: Shot post-Duhaupas Helenius KTFOed Konstantin Airich with a single punch in R1.
    Joshua: Went 3 rounds with Airich who took his power shots with ease. Also had to punch Airich when he was already down. Airich still got up and there was a friendly TKO stoppage.
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Helenius used to be an extremely dangerous fighter, he could punch through a brick wall! Sparring with Joshua will be good for him, he needs good sparring, needs to get a top trainer also....................
     
  11. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes he did... 2 years and 6KO losses after Joshua fought against him...

    Also if we are playing that game... Joshua TKO'd Sprott... how did Helenius do?
     
  12. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    I think the Airich fight is a better measure of power as a single fight. Helenius broke a tendon in his hand during the fight with Sprott and went to 2-year layoff. The injury was real, nobody takes two whole years off for a fake excuse injury. Joshua bumrushed Sprott and got a TKO stoppage like in many of his fights. Unlike Joshua, when Helenius gets stoppage he usually knocks the mother****er out.
     
  13. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bull, they are relevant as each other. The main point is Joshua is 19-0 (19KO) and unified WBA Super/IBF Champ whilst Helenius is 25-1 (16KO) and was a Euro Champ. Joshua has less fights but more KO's and overall his opposition has been higher quality.
     
  14. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    I don't entirely disagree. My original point was that current Helenius still has power, not that he's better than Joshua.
     
  15. Routa

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    Bit surprised how big he looks against Joshua

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