Would Tommy Burns learn new skills in a modern 101 Boxing class?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Sep 12, 2017.


  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    We can get back to it after we've finished talking about the topic of the thread.
    Have you given up on your argument?
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I've said all that I feel like saying about the technique on display in Burns-Moir for now. Until I hear disagreement from some
    posters who have much better understandings of boxing technique than you, I'm not inclined to discuss it any further.
     
  3. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    When? Your lack of specificity makes your point unpersuasive.
    You should be able to provide a concrete example of a technique that Tommy Burns would've learned that would evolve his technique. Are you anchoring this argument on Tommy Burns hand placement in the clinch? This is the big sign of unevolved technique?

    What about fighters who do not do what you described Lomachenko and Usyk doing?
    If they don't do those things, they are unevolved? Because Mikey Garcia doesn't fight like they do either, does he?
    You are just describing Lomachenkos style, and then saying "Look, Tommy Burns doesn't do this, this, and this." But since when was Lomachenkos style the threshold between evolved and unevolved skill?
     
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  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    And there you have it.
    This was the sum of the ingenuity that goes into the anti-old school thinking.
    I for one am left with more doubt about their stance on the issue than I had when I came into this thread.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Now you're just babbling nonsense. Look. I appreciate the effort but I'm gonna wait to hear from some of the posters who understand technique, preferably some who don't offer such contorted readings of my posts. Until then...peace.
     
  6. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Welp, thank you for trying.
    Perhaps someone else out there can provide better examples and arguments to demonstrate that Tommy Burns would learn evolved techniques today?
     
  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's just the fact that the finer points of the game were stressed in those days. Feinting, footwork, slipping, ducking, parrying and doing all of this and countering to vital areas of an opponents body. This was written about by Fleischer, Goldman, Arcel and many others through the years.
     
  8. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His combos would be much more frequent and polished...all punches shorten like say a Harold Johnson or average pros in the fifties..other than that not much polishing