Golovkin v. Hagler's opponents

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How many of Hagler's opponents would likely beat GGG?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    How many of Hagler's opponents would you have favored in a fight against Golovkin? Which ones?
     
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    Hagler fought tough guys. I think he beats Hamsho who was open, Hearns knocks out GGG, Duran would give GGG a good fight, let me tell you Duran's style is good for GGG and he might enjoy it and surprise us. This is what I mean by style, and people don't understand that about Duran. You give him a guy who fights the way GGG fights and Duran does well. I think Duran might beat GGG.. Leonard would beat him. Mugabi no.. Fully Obel? No he wouldnt beat GGG Minter? Minter would lose Vito. would edge it in 1980
     
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Vito? I think Golovkin would have his face hanging off by the 8th round (if he's still on his feet).
     
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    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Those guys Hagler fought were tough. They were named Zeal or Macklin. Or whoever some of the clowns GGG fought were.
     
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    So Vito beats Golovkin because he's tough?
     
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    I would pick Hearns and give Mugabi a solid chance. I think Vito would give a very good challenge that I could see going either way. My upset special is if Minter avoids getting cut, I would pick him to be live dog and spring an upset. GGG is very good and would likely fare well overall. So I don't mean these as a knock against him.

    Not sure what this proves? Are you debating if triple G is on par with The Marvelous One?
     
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    Would likely beat? 0 or 1. Maybe Leonard because he had great feet, could counter and a heck of a chin!

    In some cases, I think GGG would do even better than Hagler did in victory.

    Hagler was an undeniable talent, but his boxing smarts, and sometimes guts for a man of his durability and skills make you wonder why at times he fought the way he did.

    In terms of the jab, they are close, I think GGG's is a bit better by a small margin.

    In terms of Power, GGG is better.

    In terms of ring smarts / cutting off the ring and knowing when to box and when to slug, I think GGG is better

    Who fought better middles? Hagler.

    Hagler was a somewhat cautious boxer-puncher, who methodically picked you apart. Like GGG he was very durable and perhaps a bit more well rounded than GGG. You could say Hagler could do a bit of everything, but he wasn't that fast. GGG might have better hand speed in his prime.

    I still rate Hagler over GGG based on accomplishments and quality of opposition fought, but if we are talking who had better tools, and who fought smarter, there is a debate.
     
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Doesn't prove anything. But I've seen a lot of classic fans express skepticism re: Golovkin because he doesn't have any big names on his resume, so I'm very curious how they think he would have fared against the men on Hagler's resume--just to get a sense of how folks perceive his abilities.
     
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    What about Leonard? That's interesting-- I think Golovkin's all wrong for Minter. Minter's preferred range, his lack of head movement, and his tendency to cut easy would doom him here. I think even guys like Hamsho and Roldan would be liver underdogs than Minter.
     
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    Are Minter, Roldan, and Hamsho really aren't better than Jacobs or Brook, who I would argue would give a 34 year old Hagler trouble? Not really.

    The real question is should GGG defeat Alvarez ( Alvarez in his prime at age 27, when GGG is 35 ), would this win be on par with all of Hagler's, save perhaps the Tommy Hears fight? I'm really not terrible impressed with Duran at middle weight, and think Alverez would have beaten him at 160 pounds. Duran lost six times in the 1980's above 150 pounds. His best stuff was at light weight.
     
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    I think Golovkin might be the best MW ever h2h.

    After KOing Canelo, he might be the greatest.
     
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    How bout the guys hagler fougt before he won the title
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Can't rule out that he's the best but greatest? Bold!

    You consider Brook on par with Roldan, Hamsho, Minter and Duran as a middleweight?
     
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    I could see some of those old Philly middleweights giving an inexperienced Golovkin some real difficulties.