Which was a harder fight for GGG? Canelo or Jacobs?

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Which one?

  1. Canelo

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  2. Jacobs

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  1. Boxingfan200

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    Jacobs. without that knockdown he should of won.
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I thought Jacobs won more rounds. Just because Canelo finished strong, doesn't mean he won the fight.
    And a 2 point round wont matter if you win 7 rounds out of 12. Heck, Pascal knocked Hopkins down in two separate rounds and he still lost the fight(yes, officially it was a draw).
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    If you scored every round 10-9 and gave Jacobs 7 rounds it would be 114-113. The KD would only make a difference if both won 6 rounds a piece or you had an even round.
     
  4. boxerfan13

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    Jacobs. He's a bigger MW. Gave GGG all kinds of fits and wasn't constantly going backwards.
     
  5. shadow111

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    Well the general consensus seems to be Canelo winning early, G winning the mid rounds and Canelo winning the late rounds. I think that's an accurate fight flow, however it's not a foregone conclusion that G won all 6 rounds 4-9. Personally I thought that in several of those rounds Canelo landed the best punches of the round, albeit less punches thrown than G. I think one judge gave Canelo the 7th and if I go back and go through those rounds I could probably find 1 or 2 of those rounds to give to Canelo. Rounds 4-9 were not clear cut rounds for G, they were G’s best rounds, but still rounds that could go either way. You’re just assuming that G won all 6 of those rounds clearly.

    FYI Byrd had G winning the 4th, Canelo winning 5 and 6, and G winning the 7th. The 7th a round that Byrd gave to G, Don Trella gave to Canelo. It’s not like G was winning these rounds convincingly, most of those were pretty close. Also I personally was impressed with how Canelo was fighting off the ropes in the 4th. That was entertaining. Yes he backed away into the ropes, but he made G miss and came back with some shots of his own. Rounds 4-9 were tough rounds to score, I will have to go back and watch again.

    By the way, Lederman disagreed with Moretti and Trella on Rounds 1 and 3. All 3 judges gave the 1st round to Canelo, but Moretti and Trella gave the 3rd to G. Lederman gave the 3rd to Canelo. The 3rd was definitely a swing round, if they would have gave that to Canelo he wins the fight.
     
  6. GK BOX

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    Jacobs for sure the harder fight. Jacobs threw way more power punches and landed more. Plus the jab got him the W in the Jacobs fight.

    The Canelo cards were trash. Trela gave round 7 to Canelo. That made the fight a draw
     
  7. shadow111

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    Yeah and Byrd gave round 7 to G. That's a round that we should go back and take another look at. The cards weren't trash, you were just rooting hard for G.
     
  8. shadow111

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    Well I think you see my point that it's easier to make an argument for a guy winning when in a close fight he comes on strong in the last several rounds. Pretty much everybody agrees that Canelo won the 10th, 11th and 12th. It's hard to give the fight to G when he did so poorly in the last 3 rounds.
     
  9. GK BOX

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    its funny because the two Mexicans that watched the fight with me scored it 8-4 GGG ( I scored their rounds). Today they changed their tune. Yet I reminded them of their live score card. See the bias of an "official" decision?? All of a sudden, a fight that clearly was being won by a fighter is put in doubt because the judges didn't do their job.

    Once again, the vast majority of swing rounds go to the A side.
     
  10. Badbot

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    ...But that's just the last 3? The **** does it matter if you won the first round or the last? As long as you tally up more points, you win.
     
  11. shadow111

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    Honestly I think it had more to do with the fact that Canelo was backing up as much as he was. Many judges and media prefer those who are coming forward, which G was doing.
     
  12. shadow111

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    Right, but when the fight is on the table, which it was heading into the championship rounds, and one guy takes over like Canelo did, it's easier to make the argument that he deserved to win. Like Jacobs, he gassed himself out in the 11th round. Had he came out in the 12th like Canelo did, there would be more of an argument for him winning. In addition to that point, you have Jacobs getting knocked down. Even if you thought Jacobs won more rounds than Canelo, it's still a wash with the 2 point round for a KD.
     
  13. GK BOX

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    ggg fought his fight. Canelo fought in a manner we've never seen before. Tough guy!
     
  14. shadow111

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    I can agree with that. I fully expected Canelo to come forward more and duck the jab and get inside more. I admit I was surprised at how much Canelo was using his footwork and backing away. That more than anything I think is why Canelo didn't win. Too much negative boxing, judges and media especially like fighters who come foward. Also DLH stated neither guy takes a step back, which turned out ot not be true. There was not enough coming forward from Canelo, however at the same he was setting traps and managed to land some bombs on G. I still respect the way Canelo fought, though he was backing up at times, he wasn't just covering up, he was surprising G with well timed punches when G didn't expect them. It was fascinating to me how Canelo fought in all honesty. He proved that he's very versatile and unpredictable in there. I bet G expected a more come forward fight from Canelo.
     
  15. GK BOX

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    I'm real curious to see if Canelo can dominate 160 with ggg on his way out. As good as he is, his smaller dimensions worry me. Jacobs and Charlo with their 6ft height and 75 inch reach will pose problems I believe