Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz, Nov. 4 in NY officially announced

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  1. Howitzer1888

    Howitzer1888 Active Member Full Member

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    I understand what you're saying entirely. I would just like the fight to be closer to its date until I give Wilder some credit for it that's all. I just want to see it happen. No excuses, no pull outs, no failed drug tests, etc. Then I can be sure Wilder wanted the fight and give him some credit for that, when he didn't even have to fight Ortiz.
     
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  2. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Wait...

    This is Luis Ortiz the undefeated heavyweight Cuban boxer with a record of 27-0-0, correct? Or is it a fat dude named Luis Ortiz who works at Walgreens?
     
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  3. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This wont happen. Wilder will not step in the ring with a live body.
     
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  4. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes. Might be Parker or Whyte rematch, or maybe he fights the winner :)
     
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  5. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    while on paper, it's official. I'm not getting too excited for this fight until fight night cuz.... for all we know, Ortiz could pop dirty "somehow" or an injury happens or any other funny business could occur.
     
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  6. lawslaw

    lawslaw Active Member Full Member

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    SO technically Ortiz is officially ducking AJ. :p
     
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  7. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm already sure Wilder wants the fight, if he was trying a set-up surely he wouldn't pay Stiverne to step-aside?

    Also I know from the NZ forum that some of the guys there had dinner with Wilder's team at Wilder-Washington and they were definitely of the impression that Wilder was serious about fighting better opposition this year. Wilder-Parker would probably have been made if the WBO hadn't forced Parker to fight Hughie instead.
     
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  8. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, no I don't think anyone is ducking anyone. Ortiz preferred the Joshua fight as it was more $$$, but Joshua chose to fight the mando of the stricter org (IBF) first.
     
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  9. Howitzer1888

    Howitzer1888 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah I suppose you're right. Sorry I missed that detail about Stiverne. A great fight if it ends up happening then, that's all I'll say for now.
     
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  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No probs, I understand your skepticism based on a long history of disappointments with Wilder. perfectly understandable, I used to think so too, I think something just switched with Deontay and he decided to try to prove himself.
     
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  11. Howitzer1888

    Howitzer1888 Active Member Full Member

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    Lets hope so eh? I would like to see that because I don't dislike him as a person based on what I have seen from him. Would be good to see him prove himself against good opposition and show he's a proper, top fighter.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I agree. Full credit to him for once and it's not in his own backyard either. I saw no signs of decline in Ortiz against Scott and Allen as some claimed. He was in full control and dominated both fights. This is going to be a good fight.
     
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  13. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, it's basically 50-50. I got Wilder, but there's a very, very good case for Ortiz.
     
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  14. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No the one who works at Denny's.
     
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  15. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    They said it couldn't be done. The keyboard warriors said that Deontay don't fight dangerous cubans, pumped up full of PED's. God bless the devastating bronze bomber for saving the heavyweight division. While that body builder Joshua, makes a mockery of the title belts. By fighting that punk Pulev!
     
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