Andre Ward is the most overrated fighter of all time.

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  1. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I partly agree with what you're saying, but there was at least 6 low blows in that fight, 3 of them were bad ones which could not have been accidental, one, or maximum two can be accidental in very rare situations but here it was clear that he was losing the fight at the start and he needed a way back, I don't know if Weeks favored him or whether he was too incompetent to see it. Watch this video, I found it about 15 mins ago and just finished watching. It really solidified my opinion of Ward as a dirty fighter.

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  2. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea...definitely low watching that again. I didn't think they were that low when I watched it initially. Thought they were borderline. Ward could have gotten a point deduction and been on his way to a DQ. I thought Kov edged Ward out in the first fight. With that said, I still believe Kovalev was looking too much for the refs help instead of taking the fight into his own hands. He should have went low too in my opinion to get Ward to keep them up. He should have fought on even though the ref wasn't doing a good job controlling the fight
     
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  3. drenlou

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    GGG did not beat Canelo.
     
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  4. Braindamage

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    LOL Ward overrated? Please, Olympic Gold medalist, consistantly faced the best comp and won. Just because your boy didn't get the decision doesn't mean Ward is overrated. The first Kov fight was close! I thought Kov pulled it out. The second was a staight out ass whoopin, no question. Please, keep on crying about it, sh!t makes me laugh! Tell me more about all the corruption and cheating!
     
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  5. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, you're persistent. I remember you picking Canelo to beat GGG before the fight, so I'll leave your comment as a fanbouy comment, and won't go into it any further.
     
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  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't like Kovalev either, I'm a boxing fan, and if you didn't see the low blows that were hit with full power then you need to watch the fight closely or at least the video I linked, above. He always used dirty tactics, headbutts, at least 2 or 3 in Kov - Ward 2, punches below the belt, but some people call him crafty because of that lol
     
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  7. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Remember whatever the **** you want to remember, bottom line is GGG did not beat Canelo Alvarez!!! SOWWEY

    But 118-110 Canelo was atrocious..
     
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  8. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hahahahaah what a deluded indivdual you are mate.
     
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  9. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Don't talk to me ALT.
     
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  10. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry Oscar, or is it Bernard?
     
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  11. JohnnyDrama99

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    Not on paper, but no question the draw was a gift for Alvarez. He lost that fight and there's no valid arguments to justify the draw or even more, a win for Alvarez.
     
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  12. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're afraid to admit your delusion? It's okay, I know you have a good time having wild thoughts about Canelo, he is a good looking lad. There is no shame in that, I understand, really I do.
     
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  13. drenlou

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    I don't discuss boxing with ALTS! SOWWEY
     
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  14. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This about sums it up.

    OFFICIAL CARDS
    Dave Moretti --------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Don Trella -----------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Adelaide Byrd -------------------------------> 118-110 Canelo

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    Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
    Unnamed boxing site ---------------------> 118-110 GGG
    Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
    Kelly Pavlik ---------------------------------> 117-111 GGG
    Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
    Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
    Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Al Bernstein -------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Steve Bunce (BoxNation) ----------------> 116-112 GGG
    Tom Loeffler ------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Michael Woods (Ring) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Nigel Collins (ESPN) ----------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Cliff Rold ----------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bad Left Hook Writer #2 -----------------> 116-112 GGG
    John A. MacDonald (Boxing Monthly) ---> 116-112 GGG
    Ron Lewis (The Times) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
    Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
    Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
    Matt Christie (Boxing News) -------------> 116-113 GGG
    Barry Jones (BoxNation) -----------------> 116-113 GGG
    Adam Booth -------------------------------> 116-114 GGG
    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
    Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
    MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
    Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Marc Livitz (SecondsOut) ------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) -------> 115-113 GGG
    Ed Robinson (Sky Sports) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Tom Gray (Ring) ---------------------------> 115-114 GGG
    Max Kellerman -----------------------------> Golovkin
    Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Shane Mosley ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Austin Trout --------------------------------> Golovkin
    Paulie Malignaggi --------------------------> Golovkin
    Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
    Scott Cardle --------------------------------> Golvokin
    Terence Crawford ---------------------------> Golovkin
    Reece Bellotti ------------------------------> Golvokin
    Liam Smith ---------------------------------> Golovkin
    Peter Quillin --------------------------------> Golovkin
    Liam Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Ohara Davies -------------------------------> Golovkin
    Luke Campbell -----------------------------> Golovkin
    Dave Coldwell ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Badou Jack ---------------------------------> Golovkin
    Kevin Kelly (boxer) -------------------------> Golovkin
    Steve Kim -----------------------------------> Golovkin
    Doug Fischer --------------------------------> Golovkin
    Ring TV guy (name?) ----------------------> Golvokin
    Cornelius Bundrage ------------------------> Golovkin
    Michael Montero ----------------------------> Golovkin
    James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
    Joe Rogan (UFC) ----------------------------> Golovkin
    Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ------------> Golovkin
    Kovalev -------------------------------------> Golvokin
    Chavez Jr -----------------------------------> Golovkin
    Danny Jacobs -------------------------------> Golovkin
    Murat Gassiev ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Johnny Nelson ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Rosie Perez ---------------------------------> Golovkin
    Lou DiBella ---------------------------------> Golovkin
    Tony Jeffries --------------------------------> Golovkin
    Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) -------------> Golovkin
    Dave Allen ----------------------------------> Golovkin
    Joseph Parker ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Bernardo Osuna (ESPN Deportes) --------> 115-115 Draw
    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
    Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Kenny Porter ------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Roy Jones ---------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Peter Fury ---------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Tommy Hearns ----------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Joe Cortez ---------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Liam Happe (Yahoo Sport UK) -----------> 114-114 Draw
    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ---> 114-114 Draw
    Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
    Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) -------------> 114-114 Draw
    Brian Kenny (MLB Network) -------------> 114-114 Draw
    Eric Rasken (HBO) -----------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Danny Flexen (British Boxers) -----------> 114-114 Draw
    Kieran Mulvaney (HBO) ------------------> 114-114 Draw
    David Greisman (former writer) ---------> 114-114 Draw
    Unnamed writer (Unnamed site) --------> 114-114 Draw
    Danny Howard (Boxing Tribune) ---------> 115-114 Canelo
    De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
    Bernard Hopkins --------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
    Gilbert Mendoza (President of WBA) -----> 115-113 Canelo
    Erik Morales -------------------------------> 117-111 Canelo (think he said; see video page 3)
    Chavez Sr ---------------------------------> Canelo
     
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  15. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on, surely there is something smarter you can say. By the way, I love your profile picture, really screams the kind of person you are, and your everlasting love for Canelita.
    He got smacked around by GGG, just deal with it, Golovkin got robbed. There is no shame in losing, Canelo did himself proud and was full of heart throughout the fight, he just met a better man and there was nothing he could do.
     
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