Peter Jackson vs jack Johnson

Perry stated it perfectly.

 

Cardiff was 36 years old their fight was stopped when Cardiff injured his arm .Godfrey hit his head on the cement floor and was unable to continue.Jackson won the coloured title in this fight,[ 1888,] but never defended it,so he missed Frank Childs,Klondike Haynes , and Hank Griffin.
Maher was just 20 years old, all his fights had been against debutees and a year earlier he had fought for the Irish Middleweight title.Denver Ed Smith never beat anyone of any note.

Like I said Jackson's best win is over Slavin,not enough to pick him over Johnson.

 

Jackson shouldnt be discounted here. Jack Johnson idolised Peter Jackson. in fact, he stopped in at his grave on his way back to the USA, after he defeated Tommy Burns, just to show his respect. Both these fighters were considered by many perhaps even most as the greatest fighter of all time by those who saw them.

jackson could hook and uppercut but preferred to hit straight and hard. johnson preferred defensive style. i think jackson would have the mental advantage and prime for prime would be quite a bit younger than Johnson. This fight is going a long way. In fact, there is every possibility that if scheduled as a fight to the finish, it could still end up a draw.

All that being said, i have never seen jacksons record as being as impressive as those who saw him seem to think it is. Johnson has to start favourite, i would have thought.

 

Well I'd have to see the question. Corbett has his own top ten. Jackson is 1B, Jeffries 1A and he same all of them fight.

I'll ask again, who saw both Johnson and Jackson in and felt Johnson was better?

 

Its just a quick news clip. I do not own it.

 

Corbett is on record as saying Johnson was the cleverest boxer he ever saw.
I've no idea,I know there isn't one respected boxing writer that has Jackson in his top ten ,but nearly all of them have Johnson in there and usually in the top half!
Siler was based in Chicago ,Jackson had just 4 fights there.
Sailor Charles Brown 0-0-0.His career record is 0-8-0
Denver Ed Smith who never beat anyone of note.
Captain James Dalton3-5-2.He hadn't won a fight for 8 years! He was also a bareknuckle fighter!
Jack King .1-9-1 He was a featherweight!

If these are the only fights of his that Siler saw, then I suggest anyone would look good against them!lol
Jackson's record doesn't bear comparison to his reputation!

 

Main facts:

1 ) Like I said, show me people who saw them both. I gave you two big names, Siler and Corbett saying Jackson was better. Corbett clearly has Jackson over Johnson in his rankings

2 ) Jackson has name wins over Slavin ( 34-2-5, KO losses ) , Maher ( 21-1 ) , Godfrey 16 wins 2 losses 10 draws ) Lees ( 11-2-3 ), Ed Smith ( 28-1-2 ) and Aussie hwy champ Dooley. He beat good competition, and likely fought better than John L Sullivan.

3 ) How many of the writers you mentioned saw Jackson in the ring? If you never saw, you can't really rate.

4 ) Siler was the referee for both, and may have seen them in the crowd. His opinion really matters.

Opinions:

1 ) Style wise Jackson is the type of fighter who could give Johnson trouble.

2 ) Jackson's win over Slavin could be better than Johnson's best win, which is maybe Burns.

 

Over the millennium? Which fighters did they consider from the first 800 years of that millenium?

 

I've told you this before Siler never refereed either Jackson or Johnson! Corbett rates Johnson as the best boxer he saw.I've never seen him list Jackson over Johnson neither him or any boxing writer.
Words like "may ," and ,"likely" don't cut it.

"If you never saw you can't really rate" Your words! Well you never saw Jackson so you have no idea how his "style" would go against Johnson!
Maher was a 20 years old boxer who had only fought debutees and a year before he had been a middleweight!
Lees was a moderate fighter his record is 15-11-3.
Smith never beat any one of class. Dooley was a bare knuckle fighter who won the Aussie title from
so -so Bill Farnan7-0-2. Being Aussie Champ then meant about as much as being the best fighter in Poughkeepsie! Godfey was injured when he fell out of the ring and banged his head on the cement floor.
Bottom Line. Jackson has just one good win, Slavin

 

The film maker would kick his ass because he lives in the 21st century. Johnson can't handle his size and modern training benefits.

 

A millennium is only a thousand years.

 

f*cking phone ruins all my material

 

Seamus proves to be the fool AGAIN. Tell everyone how Kovalev was good enough to KO Dempsey Louis AND Marciano again.

 

In terms of opinions of those who saw both Jackson and Johnson. There would probably be a built in bias in Jacksons favor. Many whites liked Jackson and his demeanor whereas Johnson was the scourge of the white community.