Which of the UK's "prospects" will be the most successful/failures?

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  1. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Most Successful

    Josh Taylor
    Josh Kelly
    Josh Buatsi
    Joe Cordina



    Biggest Failures

    Anthony Yarde
    Daniel Dubois
    Lawrence Okolie
    Conor Benn



    Thoughts?
     
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  2. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    I think dubois with do well however I think buatsi won't.

    He was all about overwhelming fighters and throwing tons of punches in the am's pro game us slower, j dont think he will be as good at picking he's punches and will get countered
     
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  3. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    I'm spotting a pattern, you like guys named Josh?

    Daniel Dubois is what, 20, he has loads of time to progress if he is managed properly. I've heard people say he could be the next David Price, but he was 29 when he was becoming known and being matched against almost world level fighters, and had only been a pro a few years. Of course there is still so much we don't know about Dubois, but this kid has raw potential, and the HW division is rarely that strong.
     
  4. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    The matchmaking for Dubois has been the worst I've seen given to a prospect in 25+ years of following the sport. Two of his opponents have been LHW's, one of them weighed in at 199lbs....

    ...and STILL he has been tagged and rocked vs very pathetic competition. I don't want to say he has a Glass Jaw just yet but it's looking very likely he has a suspect chin and poor stamina. He can obviously give a punch but can he take one?

    Same for Yarde tbh, both fighters matchmaking has been absolutely pathetic.
     
  5. james5000

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    Josh Kelly will be a failure IMO, he's almost too big for 147 but too small for 154. I say failure by the fact that he won't live up to the hype.

    147 is a money division and he will be lucky to get a belt there. Could sneak one @ 154 if he times it right but the hype he gets is ridiculous.

    Ffs he gets hit cleaner and easier than Eubank Jr ever did and he has started with worse comp.

    This guy is supposed to be a gun amateur, and Jr barely had a amateur career and learnt on the job.

    Conor Benn will be an over achiever, everyone thinks he won't make British level but I bet he gets to world level. Kelly better stay away from Anthony Fowler, Fowler will punch holes in him
     
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  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    I'm not surprised you mentioned Eubank Jr, you seem to bring him up as often as possible xD
     
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  7. james5000

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    People used to say Jr will never get past British level, but they practically call PBK a future HOFer that would beat Kell Brook and Khan today lol.

    Success and failure can be relative to expectations IMO, PBK is overrated
    I rate Fowler much higher and he doesn't get a mention

    Fowler does have a bit of Froch in him IMO, will go places
     
  8. james5000

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    Josh Taylor will finish his career with the greatest legacy IMO, which is not the same as successful (relative to expectations at least)
     
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  9. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dont see any of them making it apart from josh taylor
     
  10. Northadox

    Northadox Active Member Full Member

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    Josh Taylor will be most successful imo

    He looks very talented and things have timed very nice for him, if Crawford moves up he could find himself fighting for a belt in next few years

    I also think Buatsi will be really good, he's been in with some monsters in amateurs for anyone who follows that so he's gonna have learnt a lot from that

    Lawrence Okolie will be the biggest failure, he's just awful to watch.. he has great power but no defence whatsoever and not the best chin so it's just a KO waiting to happen
     
  11. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    I don't think Fowler will do that much TBH.

    I think Kelly is hyped because of his style, maybe he won't go as far as I think or as far as people say but he is very entertaining and seems to have the personality and looks of a star.

    I really don't know why you find Eubank jr so enduring, the guy just doesn't have the "x factor" for me.
     
  12. bbjc

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    Not commenting on dubois,s long term prospects cause i ve not really seen him bar about one minute on saturday night. But did anyone see the knockout. Thought he,d almost killed the guy with that last punch. Suspect hes been turned over early cause franks a bit desperate. But bloody hell he can hit. Reckon he looks like he,ll be a knocker outter of guys that arent very good...but surely with that power at 20. Hes one to watch a bit. I ve no idea really cause i ve not really seen him and understand hes fighting pretty much guys a lot lighter and not much good. But pretty brutal knockout tbf.
     
  13. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    He's been fighting guys and no exaggeration here, 50lbs lighter than him. I'm sure Chris Byrd would look like a KO artist if he was fighting welterweights.
     
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  14. Izaak97

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    I actually reckon Conor Benn will surprise everyone. Just like what has been said people thought Eubank Jr wouldn't make it past British level cause he had a few off fights early on, now look at him. People also forget Benn is only 20 so there's still loads of improvement to come. 8-0 6KO ain't bad for a lad of that age with not much amateur experience.

    Joe Cordina is the best prospect imo he seems to have pretty much every attribute needed.
     
  15. bbjc

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    Yeah kind of figured that mate. Actually think i missed the very start of the fight. Turned it on when he knocked the guy down. Thought to myself...no doubt another totally mismatched guy. Nothing impressive to see here. Then the boy walked into a bit of a poleaxe. Looked pretty brutal. Matchmaking looks a bit dangerous by the look of it.
     
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