GGG-Canelo media scorecards & CompuBox

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The bald guy at 2:20 is an Albanian fighter named Dardan Zenunaj

    Not sure who the rest are but there are a few other videos on the channel from the same day where their names might be mentioned.
     
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    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks. I'll add Dardan Zenunaj.
     
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  3. Serge

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    Just watched the fight again and here's my scorecard:
    * = close round

    01 -----> 10-9 SA*
    02 -----> 10-9 SA
    03 -----> 10-9 SA*
    04 -----> 10-9
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    05 -----> 10-9
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    06 -----> 10-9
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    07 -----> 10-9
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    08 -----> 10-9
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    09 -----> 10-9
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    10 -----> 10-9
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    11 -----> 10-9
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    12 -----> 10-9 SA*

    8-4 GGG
    116-112 GGG

    There's likely an argument for GGG winning Round 1 and Round 12 (and Round 3), I believe. Golovkin out-landed Canelo in Round 1 (I know Lederman gave GGG that round) and he tied Canelo in landed punches in Round 12. Still, I think Canelo gets the nod in Round 12. (He also out-landed Canelo in Round 3..............Canelo only out-landed GGG in one round of the fight, Round 2).

    My assessment pretty much jibes with that of both Jacobs (GGG wins and pretty much shuts out Canelo after the early rounds) and Pavlik (117-111 GGG). Jacobs felt Canelo did little after about Round 4-5 or so, and Pavlik felt like Canelo didn't really win any rounds after Round 3. Pavlik picked Canelo to win the fight beforehand.

    In total, Canelo faded hard after the first few rounds, in my opinion. I thought he tried to rally in Rounds 10-11, but it was not enough. And he did rally in Round 12.

    Here is Pavlik talking about the fight. The video is "off" so it's not your browswer, it's the live stream they used. It's lagging. Pavlik shares his thoughts on the bout at around 8:30 or so into the video.

    What he saw in the fight was pretty much what I saw, except I'm not sure there is really a way to give Canelo any of the middle rounds, except possibly Round 5 (in which GGG landed 4 more punches). I thought that round was close.

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  5. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess technically you can add Santana...

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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly this.
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isal of all people would be here blasting 3G fans is he thought canelo won.
     
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  8. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Chavez Sr. has changed his mind. He thinks a draw was fair and Canelo did not land enough punches to win the fight.

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  9. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the Canelo lovers are looking pretty bad right now and they know it.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No that headline is misleading, he didn't change his mind. He said that if Canelo landed more punches he thought he would have won (on the scorecards). Basically he was saying Canelo could have done a little bit more here and there which would have resulted in him winning. (instead of a draw)

    He personally thought Canelo won, he was just saying that in the eyes of the judges, Canelo could have thrown a few more punches here and there and made it more convincing.

    By the way another thing we learned in that video clip was that the host, Bernardo Osuna scored the bout 115-114 for Canelo. He explained how he had the extra point, it was becuase he scored the first round a 10-10 round.

    So please add Bernardo Osuna 115-114 for Canelo to the list of media scorecards.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bernardo Osuna is listed on Page 1 as having a 115-115 draw. He stated in that video today that in fact he had it 115-114 for Canelo.
     
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  12. ElCyclon

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    It's Hagler/Leonard all over again.
     
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  13. NewBoxingOrder

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    Done!
     
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    One of the greatest Mexican musicians of all time, and guitar great period thinks Golovkin was the better man over a Mexican fighter. :deal:
     
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    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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