Who has the greater legacy: Pacquiao or Floyd?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by FastSmith7, Sep 20, 2017.


Superior legacy?

  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  2. Manny Pacquiao

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    67.7%
  1. Ronnie Raygun

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    You forgot and most mental hospitals
     
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  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    none. I wouldn't bet on Floyd. I like eras like Hagler. Hearns, guys who came to fight anyone at any time without excuses. If you like the eras of boring fights and constructed undefeated records that is fine, but in 20 years no one will be talking about Floyd. They still talk about Hagler and Hearns. Why?
     
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    You sound like you lost a of money and your in denial
     
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  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you Floyd fans need to realize there were eras where people came to fight and gave fans great fights. Using losing money as an excuse to someone not liking a guy who never had a great fight and handpicked fighters, and made others lose to weaken them is not a valid excuse. Floyd will not be remembered well in 20 years, and he knows it. Marciano was an exciting fighter who was undefeated. Floyd was boring and handpicked.
     
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    You sound paranoid i dont like floyd so the whole world should hate him.
    When Floyd is in his private jet im sure hes not thinking about you.
     
  6. nervousxtian

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    He had the advantage over everyone he ever fought because he was better than them.

    The goalposts keep getting moved with Floyd like nobody else ever. Floyd will go down as an ATG and will be talked about for more than 20 years. I grew up with Hagler, Hearns, Tyson, Duran, Leonard. I recognize and admire boxers with all different skill-sets.

    Funny you give Floyd **** for the way he fought when you have Sweet Pea as your name.. dude was a defensive genius who couldn't break a china plate. Yet I remember him as an ATG.
     
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  7. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're right Floyd does have an ATG skill set .. but to mention him like he will be talked about like the fab 4 is laughable. See the difference is it's only skill set when you are facing the best competition, taking on risk, and fighting anyone anywhere anytime as much as you can... This just wasn't Floyd... There is so much more that goes into it than that just skill set when ranking ATG's .imo
     
  8. PernellSweetPea

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    didn't you guys who love Floyd ever want great fights out of him? It was ok to admire a fighter who handpicks guys at that right time and calls himself money team, just to brag about money and what he has, but not give you exciting fights. It was more important he was undefeated than making guys lose weight like Canelo or fighting guys at the right time? That is not the era I like. I like great fights. And what about paying ppv. Did you guys want more than 12 round decision safety first. This is the era you admire? This is why I am baffled. Fighters who don't give great fights and are about undefeated records don't impress me. I am glad he is retired because if he fights again he will wait for the best time to fight someone and make them weak and then make a big thing about of it, and win or go 12 rounds..
     
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  9. PernellSweetPea

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    I care about the sport. I want great fighters to come up and show me great boxing and spirit. Simply, I like great fighters and fights. Eras where the fighters know what boxing is all about and respect the titles and weights. Not guys who are into their own ego so much, they construct undefeated records and holding up money. So different from Hagler or Hearns of 30 years ago. Guys who wanted he competition. People don't have to believe what I do. That is the whole thing. Who cares about his jets. You do, I don't. Obviously that matters to you and if he is on his jet not caring about the fans that makes sense. Who says he does. He just robbed the fans of money with McGregor and people are too stupid to care. I don't care what he does in his life or what he earns, I want a great fight and great fighters who want to compete. This fight last Sat. was better than all the Floyd fights combined, and too bad a draw came out of it to hide the great fight. In 20 years Floyd probably will have spent all of his money. I really don't know, but people who show it off like he does don't have much later because they spend it all. He will have spent all of his money on whatever houses and things he wants. That is not my business but the money does not mean much. I care about the sport. Hearns won millions and had a pool the shape of a boxing glove. Really nice. Multiple homes etc. Now his worth is said to be 50,000 and he goes to cards around the country to earn money, or Duran without his earnings either. People would say years ago Duran and Hearns will always be rich, and they are not. My point is money is not boxing. Money is not what boxing is about. But Tommy and Roberto are still is seen as a warriors and great fighters after 30 years because of their fights. This is what made them great. .No one will care that much about Floyd because he left us no great fights or anything. He left us no great fights just a lot of talk and saying he is great because he constructed a record. Other guys will come up and earn millions, but if they don't give us exciting fights, they will not be remembered either. You guys today talk about things I never heard talked about in the fab 4 era. PPV buys. That is what this is about now? You guys have been brainwashed to believe that money is the sign of a great fighter or undefeated record. The thing I care about is great fights and Floyd's concern was his own ego and constructing an undefeated record, to hide the fact he has no great fights. He was a very good fighter and had great speed and counterpunching, but to be honest he never fought a really prime great fighter to test him out.. And he has no great fights to fall back on. He knows it also, that is why he came back and fought this 50th fight. He knows his legacy is rather shallow and it wouldn't surprise me if he constructs another comeback vs GGG at 154 or someone else to try and prove more with the undefeated stuff, but weakening whoever it is or exploiting an overrated guy like he always did.
     
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  10. boxerfan13

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    You rambled all that time, when you could've just said.. I don't like his fighting style. Calling people brainwashed when all you just did was spew what the media that doesn't like Floyd spews smh
     
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    Indtead of whining on these boards go pay your debt
     
  14. woodzo

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    i think floyd is a nightmare for any version of pac but i feel pac leaves behind the better legacy

    there resume at the higher weights were quite similar, only difference was floyd was putting on masterclasses and pac was just destroying people he had no rights to

    so the main diff is floyd has the win over pac and remained undefeated also with wins over corrales and castillo

    where pac has all the wars with barrera, morales JMM (with the majority been at the proper weights) however he does have the losses as well but if you did a top20 wins through out their career i think pac comes out on top

    its all down to personal preference and personally i think pac just shades it although both are absolutely outstanding and the pinnacle of this era,
     
  15. northpaw

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    This is an annoying topic, the answer as to who will have
    the greater legacy between the two will always be subjective
    based on (the pundit) who's answering.

    They both went up and enjoyed success in multiple weight classes,
    Both are multi division champions.
    Pac has early losses and Floyd didn't fight every single person he could
    have (in every era in boxing history, the top fighter has always been
    criticized for missing this or that opponent).
    Both will be forgiven those trespasses.
    When they fought, Floyd won and no matter how it's spun, they were
    both far past their prime when they fought so it was still on even terms.
    Neither one's legacy will ever stand out overwhelmingly over the other's.