Do you think Jacobs is A-level after Canelo's performance?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ilikeboxing, Sep 21, 2017.


Thoughts?

  1. A-Level

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  2. Nope. He's rubbish

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Being world class cannot mean an automatic A level rating, otherwise EVERY top 20 fighter, across every weight class would be classed as an A level fighter.

    Do you understand that?

    Lower level mandatories are world class fighters, but they're obviously nowhere near A Level fighters.

    Indongo still has to be classed as a world class fighter, yes? So why are you referring to him as a B class fighter?

    You have to rate A, B and C etc.

    There's no other way to do it.
     
  2. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You picked Canelo to win, didn't you? Why are you trying to start crap with me? You must know I'll defeat you and send you to bed looking for your tissues.
     
  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone claiming Jacobs is rubbish just qualified for their troll badge.
     
  4. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lower level mandatories ain't World Class fighters. Nice try though. They are merely title contenders.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody has claimed that.

    Nobody could claim that.

    Which is why it was a pointless option to offer.
     
  6. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    JoJo Worldclass Dan, is your new friend, Loudon. You truly don't know crap about boxing.
     
  7. mb1233

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    If not then he has to be about B++. Before GGG, he hadn't lost in about 7 years.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many mandatory challengers would be classed as world class fighters.

    A world class fighter, would be any guy rated in the top 20 of their division.


    I'm not trying to do anything.

    You simply have to have an A, B and C class type ranking system in place.

    Again, if just being deemed world class gave you an A level rating, then just about everybody would be classed as an A level guy.

    You can't do that.

    A world class fighter like Willie Monroe Jr, could never be classed as being an A level guy.
     
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  9. Loudon

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    I said MANY mandatatories, not all. But he's a perfect example to use.

    To the org's, he would be classed as a world class fighter.

    Look at some of the guys who Joe fought, who were ranked in the top 10 by the WBO.

    They were all world ranked, top 20 fighters.

    They once had a number 1 contender called Freeman Barr. (no disrespect intended to any of these guys)
     
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  10. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3 trolls voted Jacobs is rubbish. That's my point.
     
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  11. drenlou

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    Canelo in a close fight or Jacobs on a stretcher...hmmmmm
     
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  12. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monroe Jr is not world class. He's a journeymen, who's a B-Level fighter. I've got absolutely no idea why you pulled the top 20 are world class card out of your arse. Its not going to become reality, because its not real. Do a poll on that if you want. BJS is currently an A-Level MW, a World Class guy. Monroe ain't. He would be in consideration of being called world class if he beat BJS, he was the underdog for a reason. There's levels in this ya'see. Even if BJS loses to GGG or Saunders people will see him as a A-Level fighter(World Class), because he'll still be better than the Journeymen in the B-Level.
     
  13. Loudon

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    Of course Monroe is a world class fighter. He's just a lower level one.

    I mean, hang on a moment, you class Reggie Johnson as a B level, journeyman. Yet he was a world champion.

    So you're now saying that a world champion and a consistently ranked top 10 ranked guy ISN'T a world class fighter?

    What are you talking about?

    Realistically, how many people would class Billy as being an A class fighter?

    Your rankings are ridiculous.

    Again, if everyone who was deemed world class was an A level guy, then every fighter would be classed as being A level.

    Stop being silly.

    Again, if Indongo is world class, why are you saying he's now a B class guy??

    Are you saying he's not even a world class fighter anymore?

    What do you class as a B level guy? Euro level?

    You're all over the place.

    A, B and C etc, is the only way to do it.

    What did you class the GG-Murray fight?

    Did you class it as an A level + guy vs an A level - guy or something?

    It's ridiculous.

    You'd then have to have: A, A +, and A - etc.

    Madness.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I feel like I've taken an E.


    According to you:

    A level = ANY world class fighter.

    B level = A journeyman who isn't world class.


    All throughout this thread as well as the other one, you have repeatedly referred to Reggie Johnson as a B class fighter.

    So: Reggie Johnson was a journeyman who wasn't world class?

    That's despite the fact that he was of course a world champion who was consistently ranked as a top 10 fighter.

    So: World champions = Not world class.

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  15. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Like you did with that grizzly bear NO THANKS!