Joe Louis vs Tommy Morrison

There is a serious flaw in your logic here.

Louis getting dropped by Gelento, only implies that Morrison might be able to drop him, if he landed a similar hook under similar circumstances.

There is quite a big gulf between what it takes to drop somebody, and what it takes to put them away.

Secondly while Galento had his flaws as a fighter, lack of power certainly was not one of them.

It is by no means certain that Morrison hit harder than Galento.

 

His performance against Foreman can only be used as evidence that Morrison might have made a great marathon runner.

His chin was not that bad? One counter right from Bentt and he completely collapsed. And I'm sure everyone here is aware of Louis' counter-punching abilities.

 

There we have it. You simply haven't watched the fight. Why did you come here if not to troll?

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Louis goes for an uppercut to the body and Galento catches him with a quick left hook. Matter or fact it was actually a picture perfect left hook. Wasn't wide or telegraphed in any shape or form. You either lied or just don't know what you are talking about.

 

Old Foreman was nowhere near the level of a puncher that prime Joe Louis was. Not even close...Foreman said himself that he didn't hit anyone in the 1990s as hard as he did in the 70s.

Not that bad?! His chin was terrible! Down 4 times against Lewis, 3 times against Bentt, twice against Purrity, twice against Williams, once against Ruddock, and once against Mercer. That's at least 13 times in his career that he was down if I'm not missing any. That's got to be some sort of ****ing record.

I can't get over the fact that you think his chin was not that bad...interested to read your explanation.

 

You can't run a marathon in a squared circle. Using the ring to out box your opponent is a method of victory every fighter will use to win if they are capable.
Morrison implanting a stick n move game was the only way he was ever going to beat Foreman. That can't be said for guys like Frazier , Lyle , Moorer , Norton , Coetzer.
Beating Foreman is no easy task and Morrison never took another fight as seriously as that one. I judge guys based of their best achievements , not their worst.
'Never over -look anybody' . Ever heard that saying ? Thats exactly what Tommy did with Bent since he had a big fight with Lewis lined up after it.

 

Thats a non-truth.

 

Like this??

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Wlad done that against Fury too. And frigging Sam Peter of all people -for the WHOLE fight

Morrison ran a bit from Foreman , but i don't recall him fleeing with his hands over the back of his head like he was being frog marched out of a building by the swat team.
Maybe he did it once , he also threw down a lot more aggressively than Wlad was prepared to do against total soup cans.

 

That version of Foreman is a maybe two classes below Louis as a puncher.

 

Maybe , maybe not. If Conn walked into power blows off Foreman like he did against Louis he would die.

 

No it really really doesn't work like that.

Firstly there is a huge gulf between what it takes to drop a fighter, and what it takes to knock them out cold.

Are we going to argue that Morrison would knock Ali out cold, just because Henry Cooper dropped him?

Louis was never stopped by a single punch in his entire career of 70 fights, so it is far from certain that anybody could do it.

Secondly it is in no way certain that Morrison hit harder than Galento.

They were both among the hardest hitters of their respective eras, so who can say which of them hit harder.

 

Its a legal winning strategy. I don't begrudge guys who take full advantage of the ring. Thats what boxing is about.
Illegally back humping every 10 seconds?? Thats a different matter.

 

Foreman was a 40 something year old man whose reflexes were gone.

Taking punches from that old man does not mean that you are likely to take them from a fast and accurate finisher like Louis.

 

4Man never relied on reflexes in the first place.

His comeback record is better than most of the top contenders in the post Lewis era. Id favour him to blow Wlad away in 6 rounds. Terrible , terrible match -up for a fragile , glass chinned , clinch artist.