Joe Louis vs Tommy Morrison

You are comparing skills( something im not sure you know) to that of fat 5'9 drunk Galento to that of 6'2 225 Accurate athlete Morrison? You need to abandon this thread.....if that's the measuring satick how Tommy does against a hands down easy to hit 1940's 200 pounder ( no matter who it is) fighter....if this wasn't the history section you would get stoned like a early century person accused of being a witch...lmao

 

Morrison never was a world champion first of all. Secondly we are talking Louis at his very best. At his very best he could very easily ko most contenders in boxing history in one round. Morrison, a weak chinned contender, would be a prime example.

 

With all respect to Tommy and all the questions regarding the what if factor on Louis' chin, Joe was one man who had the speed, size and power to know out anyone at any weight .. I don't care what super heavyweight .. look at the shots that crushed Abe Simon and Buddy Baer (let alone Max Baer) .. Louis was lighting with is fists and possibly best two handed puncher in the division's history .. Tommy, with his dicey chin, does not hold up ..

 

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you are basing on one fight...Louis was decked in one rnd on the canvas by Braddock? What if Morrison did that? Also Bentt was knocked out basically on those ropes and trained to be in that situation,cciting he figured Morrison to lay into him and get careless....is louis really going to train like Bentt who is also 6'3 and long reach and a decorated amatuer where these type of guys were non existant in louis's era.He would no doubt be looked at as extraordinary in the 40's would he not?

Sorry but this is a clear mismatch again in the history section,and these guys actually are using Galento and HIS left hook to show he beats Morrison????OMFG...lol

louis was known and self admitted not to do good when crowded ...what do you think T. Morrison does best?

 

You honestly believe the fighter all experts rate top two ever to live greatest hwt would lose to a fighter who not only was koed multiple times in his prime but also was nothing but a contender? If you do please find another sport to follow. You are totally lost.

 

" 6'3 and long reach and a decorated amatuer where these type of guys were non existant in louis's era."

This is blatantly false

Max Baer - 6'4" reach: 81"
Primo Carnera - 6'5.5" reach: 85"
Buddy Baer - 6'6" reach: 84"
Abe Simon - 6'4" reach: 82"

All were taller than Bentt and all had a longer reach.

 

Morrison was every bit as good as anyone Louis ever fought.

Definitely better than many of the guys who dropped Louis.

If you write off Morisson's chances completely here, you're too high.

I say Louis still beats him.

 

Yes, Louis was one of the greatest with the straight down the middle punches , fast and powerful. Better than Bentt.

IF he can withstand the assault and some huge power shots , he would put Morrison out eventually. Morrison could get clumsy with his combinations. That's a big no no against Louis.

That said, I think Morrison would catch him early and force the fight, until Louis can figure it out and time Morrison.

Its still a bad matchup of styles for Louis.

 

I am sorry but you can't pull up Galento for his poor training habits, while trying to portray Morrison as a dedicated athlete.

Morrison's lapses in work ethic were arguably as bad an anyone's.

Yes I think it is legitimate to ask whether Morrison really hit harder than Galento, and if so based on what evidence.

 

Perry you stubborn old goat, you should know that the beauty of following boxing is that big upsets can and do happen especially with the big hitters at heavyweight. Not saying Morrison would definitely win but to totally dismiss Morrison chances when he could hit like mule and Louis didn’t exactly have the strongest chin ever shows just how arrogant and stubborn you are in your views regarding modern fighters in the last 20,30 years.

 

I have never bought into the idea that a limited fighter with a big punch, has a fair chance of pulling the upset against Louis.

His record in terms of the fighters that beat him, and how they beat him, suggests that such a fighter would have next to no chance.

 

It seems like you are assuming Bentt's hail mary counter punch was some special modern technique not available to Louis, this could not be more false.

It's a stretch to call Bentt a "decorated amateur", by that measure almost any fighter that turned pro was a decorated amateur. Bentt's height and reach is nothing special in any era of HW boxing in the last 100 years. Bentt's Pro Career is fairly unremarkable and would be in any era, Morrison's loss to him is unfathomably bad.

Morrison's only win over a fighter regarded as top 10 wasn't via crowding, it was using movement against a very slow opponent in his mid 40s.

 

Louis fought a long list of big hitters at heavyweight. He was only upset twice in his career. Once in just his second year as a pro by a more experienced technician who completely out classed him. The second time was when he was 37 years old against a Rocky Maricano who had to work around his jab and take the occasional power punch to batter him relentlessly and keep him down in the late rounds.

 

So how bad was Louis's chin?

He had 70 professional fights, and 31 on them were against opponents currently ranked int eh top 10 by Ring Magazine.

On this basis we would expect any weaknesses in his durability to be ruthlessly exposed.

He was stopped twice by Max Schmeling and Rocky Marciano, and there was a fifteen year period between the two events.

Both had to hit him with everything except the kitchen sink to put him away.

I see nothing in this record to suggest that anybody would be likely to beat him based on power alone.

It is not like he fought any shortage of big punchers either.

Amongst others he fought Max Baer, Charley Retzlaff, Tony Galento, Buddy Baer, Abe Simon, Tami Maurellio.

You don't keep fighting guys like these without getting stopped, unless you can take a punch.