If it quacks, it's probably a duck.............

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol James it's not often I agree with right but stop right there pal,your assessment of Saunders is well grounded I reckon but you just had to go and spoil it with the no balls bit which is why so many find it hard to take you seriously as it's like you're just trolling.

    Jacobs n Canelo were on their bike all night with Golovkin literally running both down,hardly the stuff of no balls is it now?

    What does he have to do in your book to get you off his back?genuine question James.
     
  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Totally agree with this
     
  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I reckon he has a good point,styles make fights,sure if he were still with Tibbs I'd disagree but he's looking fit and whilst never worked against Monroe he doesn't look to be a six round fighter anymore.
    Where Eubank would get waked through an on song Saunders who is undefeated right could very plausibley win rounds against GGG.
    Before the Brook fight we never saw anyone win a round of Golovkin but as he's stepped up he's lost rounds and would against Saunders,I don't think James is going out on a limb here.
     
  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes it's awful but to be fair it's Cotto who came out with this,Cotto won't take GGG fight,he's gonna take a nice easy retirement fight as he should.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

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    Yes true but from what I saw it was his dad who treated him badly as he stuffed up his sons moment and a big pay day,forget the silly negotiating re commentators,last dollar to drop bull s*** and just thinking he had K2 and Hearn bent over,forget all that cause what was awful is how Snr never inc his son in the negotiations and wouldn't even let Hearn communicate with him so the pen fiasco his son could of been telling the truth as his dad never showed him said contract.
    Why is it James you leave this out cause you should know by now that GGG will take just about anything to get the fights made,look at what Jacobs got for the being the B side and as we kept on telling you when you were clinging on to Oscars BS about offering him 15 mill lolOscar gave you a bone and after the dropped belt fiasco you took it and ate up like a Good boy.
     
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  6. Odins beard

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    Did Roach and Cotto or did they not express an interest in fighting GGG?

    Thank you I rest my case.
     
  7. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    And this after GGG said, "Cotto looked small against Canelo".
     
  8. BCS8

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    The problem with Saunders is that he doesn't have the star power to bring in the bucks and right now I think Golovkin has got $$$ in mind. GGG would end up having to carry the burden of attracting viewers on his own and Saunders isn't exactly fighting GGG for free. He wants a decent chunk o change for the belt, and I don't blame him.

    May is out of the question for GGG/BJS because of Canelo.

    December / January would be good, and I was one of the first to say he ought to fight Saunders then.

    But.

    But Miguel Cotto wants a retirement fight and he's a guy with serious star power himself. I think Cotto is done at the elite level and that he's looking for a final cash out himself. I don't want to **** on a guy like Cotto, but I honestly think Saunders, stylistically, and assuming he is at his best, is a harder fight for Golovkin than Cotto.

    So it's really a no-brainer. If they can arrange it, they will fight Cotto in December, Canelo in May and I believe Saunders after that.

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    that is what happens and GGG wins both fights its much better for Saunders too. Golovkin's star power will have grown exponentially, he will have more money at his disposal to give BJS what he wants and he will be that little bit older too. Win-win really.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    :thinking: Saunders is Golovkin's mandatory that he doesn't want to fight? Since when?
     
  10. james5000

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    GGG was never Martinez's mandatory, and he why didn't GGG make an effort to fight Sturm instead of pretending to be a world champion?

    GGG sent Billy a contract and when Billy signed GGG got cold feet.

    Why is GGG talking about fighting Cotto when #allofthebelts is his dream.

    Uncle Frank is waiting for someone to pick up the phone.
     
  11. james5000

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    GGG won't have the IBF belt so probably won't care about #allofthebelts then, that's assuming Derevyanchenko doesn't take step aside money and if he does he would expect to be after Canelo.

    It's now or never for #allofthebelts
     
  12. Angler Andrew

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    Lol Cotto ain't gonna face GGG,you acting like it's a done deal,Cotto has earns the right to take a last easy fight against someone,no way after the wars he's been through and how he already lost Canelo who GGG dealt with last week,imagine how that would work out for him,he's no middleweight,never has been so why start now lol?
     
  13. Angler Andrew

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    Cause Sturm was the one of the first of GGGs shameless duckers going back a while now aren't we?
    Ok then so if that's your take on it I'm guessing you were appalled at Canelo avoiding the Charles and Andrade at 154 no?personally never bothered me but your logic states he was ducking em right hence the Canelo catchweight a safe haven where he could avoid the true middleweights and GGG!fight Cotto and beat the man who beat the man with one leg and just to boot stay clear of those Charlos and Andrade,suddenly were in another league altogether here with Canelo ducking multiple names above n below eh?
     
  14. Angler Andrew

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    Lol James you do know Saunders and K2 met up don't you in the UK,you hold Golovkin to a different set of standards James,whilst Canelo was clowning around playing Psy op with Chavez jnr,standing between rounds cause he knew of the hard work Chavez was gonna give him,GGG was facing the no 2 middleweight Danny Jacobs in what proved to be a close,tough fight,this in the knowledge that his biggest fight and payday was most likely next,doesn't come across as the avoiding type does he?
     
  15. james5000

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    Andrade would beat Canelo 12-0
    Both Charlo's and Hurd would not let him go 12.

    Ffs I thought GGG would massacre him but GGG barely squeaked by him and looked terrible doing so.

    I never wanted GGG to fight Canelo, I thought it was a cheap way of earning p4p credit.

    Jacobs is a very good fighter but he has chin issues. His chin will fail him more often than not at a high level.

    Saunders would beat both of them, and against Canelo it wouldn't be competitive.

    Why is GGG too scared to fight Saunders????
    #allofthebelts