Andre Ward at SMW.

More predictable nonsense from you.

How did the likes of Benn and Collins do FAR MORE at the weight?

What a joke.


Andre has wins over:

Abraham
Miranda
Bika
Kessler
Dawson
Froch

Collins has:

Benn x 2
Eubank x 2
Seillier

He only fought Eubank twice because the first fight was so close. And Eubank was faded.

He only fought Benn twice, because Benn twisted his ankle in the first fight. Benn was also faded.

Collins resume doesn't match up to Andre's. And to say that he did far more, is absolutely laughable.


No, you couldn't make an argument to rate the likes of Beyer, Malinga and Holmes above him.

How have you got the nerve to question people's knowledge before you type out these fantasy posts?


Let's start with Malinga. A good fighter who was very tough. I have respect for him. He gave Benn and Eubank hard fights. But on what planet could he possibly rank higher than Andre?

He had neither the talent or the resume in order to be ranked higher than Andre.

Put up his resume so we can do a comparison.

 

You know that Eubank was damn lucky to face Collins with an undefeated record.

Again, there was nothing special about beating that version of Benn twice. And it's a stretch to say he beat him twice. You can't even class the first fight as a win. It was just on a technicality due to an injury. Whilst it may be official, it can't be celebrated as a win. Also, if Benn hadn't have been injured in that first fight, there would never have been a rematch.

You're so biased.

You don't rate Andre's wins over Froch and Kessler because they were faded, yet you try and convince people that Collins's resume is great because he beat Eubank and Benn, whilst ignoring the fact that they were also faded.

You cannot be taking seriously on here.

 

Obviously on a H2H basis.

He didn't accomplish much, because he only fought about 6/7 fights, across a 2 year period.

Based on ability, he was the greatest SMW of all time.

If you can't see that, that's on you.

 

No, I just couldn't rank him in the top 3 either on ability or resume.

 

He wasn't.

He was a bigger puncher at MW.

 

On the basis of....?

 

Yes, styles make fights. Yet you give Joe a pass for not fighting Tarver, on the grounds that he beat Bernard, who'd beaten Tarver.

 

Benn is my favourite from this list but Ward would beat him decisively it's just too easy for him stylistically.

 

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I questioned him, because his post implied that he agreed with Ra's comments.

 

Why?

Because he beat 2 of your favourite fighters twice?

It doesn't work like that.

He gets credit for beating Eubank.

He doesn't get much credit for Benn, and again, you can't even really class the first win as legitimate.

That cannot surpass beating: Abraham, Bika, Kessler, Dawson and Froch etc. It just can't. And if some of your other favourite fighters had that resume, you'd now be on here highlighting it.

 

I've already discussed this with you last month. I posted you a link, which you purposely ignored.

Here:

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/7384318/andre-ward-had-broken-hand-win-carl-froch

 

I wonder if Ottke would have been willing to travel for a big fight?

 

Bute wasnt invited. Read on

 

there wasnt 4 KDs dummy.
Yes Beyer had a good start but Woodhall made it close. the crowd were even booing how Beyer was holding late on.
Beyer may have done enough but it was a close fight

Watch it again

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