Triple G elevated to 'p4p' #1...

Unfortunately you and and only a very small portion of the fans who saw the fight see it that way. If GGG didn't earn the win over Alvarez then Floyd didn't earn the majority decision over DLH. A very small portion of fans saw Oscar beating Floyd as well but that really isn't reality.

I am right there with you about Terry or Loma being at #1. TC more so, slightly. And I totally agree that you typically don't move up the p4p rankings with a draw.....however, the overwhelming majority realize that GGG won and it was only recorded as a draw.

 

Richly deserved. Beat Canelo convincly yet was robbed. Shouldn't affect the P4P list.

 

Pbf Oscar wasn't a close fight big difference there. Pbf beat Oscar 9-3 or 8-4 At worst.

 

The GGG vs Alvarez fight wasn't close either bro..actually more people felt GGG beat Alvarez than the amount of people who thought Floyd beat DLH. Both were competitive...not close. Floyd clearly beat Oscar and GGG clearly beat Alvarez. Overwhelmingly Most felt that GGG beat Nelo 8-4, easily. A lot more people felt that the DLH vs Mayweather fight was close. I had Mayweather winning 115-112. I had GGG beating Nelo 8-4.

Even Floyd Sr was convinced Oscar beat his son.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2013/09/...said-oscar-de-la-hoya-beat-son-in-2007-fight/

 

Don't Shoot the Messenger....It just Proves that Golovkin has been judged by many Scribes for some time now as an Elite P4P Fighter....None of them I would say like a lot on this Forum push there Bias and Twisted Agenda.!!!

 

Sounds a lot like what the sensible people and general consensus had Golovkin/Alvarez!

 

P4P isn't really about "who you beat" or "your resume". It's about how you perform in the ring, the skills and boxing ability that a fighter showcases in the ring, with an emphasis on a fighter's last few fights.

It's not some kind of a "college football style" ranking, it's not determined by what titles you hold or anything like that, however that's what it seems to have become in a lot of fans eyes.

Personally, I had Canelo P4P #1 before Ward knocked out Kovalev. When Ward knocked out Kovalev, I was impressed with Ward's performance, and considered putting him P4P #1, but I wanted to wait until Canelo Triple G. The damage that Gonzalez took in his loss made me even more sure he wasn't P4P #1. Lomachenko in his last fight actually got hit a few times while showboating, and got cut, and it wasn't vs top opposition, so that kind of showed that he's not P4P #1, at least not at this moment. I know he can perform better than that. What happened in Canelo Triple G didn't do anything to remove Canelo from P4P #1. I was impressed with Canelo's performance, what he was able to do in there with Triple G. Now that Ward retired, I have Canelo solidly as my P4P #1 as he performed better on the night than Triple G. More skills, better defense, more dynamic, better quality punches landed, younger, etc. That's P4P.

Mikey Garcia at this point after his performance vs Broner I may even put ahead of guys like Kovalev and Triple G as he appears to be a more complete fighter with better skills, better all around game, etc. Mikey looked better vs Broner than I thought Lomachenko looked in his last fight.

I'd have to think about it, but I'd probably have Mikey in my Top 5 P4P at this point. I'm not sure there are two better more complete "prime" fighters with top-level technique than Canelo and Mikey Garcia in all of boxing. Thurman's up there, but has been inactive. Crawford's up there, as well.

I don't see how I can put Triple G ahead of a guy like Mikey Garcia. Even Triple G's own fans admit that he's fading, he's past his prime, etc. He was praised and highly rated primarily for his knockout power, but his last two fights put that into doubt. Triple G was never really near P4P #1 at his peak so having him P4P #1 now when he's apparently past his best over several more well rounded highly skilled boxers (Canelo, Mikey Garcia, Crawford, Thurman, Lomachenko, etc) with better fundamentals doesn't really make sense. G and all these guys listed should certainly be ahead of Kovalev though after Ward brutalized the Krusher like he did.

 

That's just your take on P4P. It certainly does matter who you beat. You can have the skills of a caveman, but if you beat everyone else, guess what, it still counts.

 

P4P criteria actually encompasses everything you mentioned including who you beat and how one performs in those fights. Of course part of the metrics that are baked into which fighters make the rankings have to do with their abilities and overall skills, but there absolutely has to be substance and depth to a fighters resume to break into the p4p rankings. If you just look great against a bunch of low level opponents and never prove the ability to beat elite level opposition, a boxer won't make the p4p ranks.