Wilder never had the intention to fight Ortiz

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by _Scott_, Sep 29, 2017.


  1. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Been calling this for a long time, Wilder will never face a legit opponent... They wanted to get a tv deal for his fight vs Stiverne, but couldnt get one. Thats why they brought Ortiz in the first place.

    Stiverne said he would never accept step aside money, and suddenly he is ok to give up his place and fight on the undercard?

    He already knew he would face Wilder, this whole circus is staged and its not even funny anymore.

    Every time he 'plans' to fight a legit opponent, his opponent gets busted. Povetkin had 0,00000001% of something in his blood, Ortiz is taking meds for his blood pressure.

    Wilder needs to be stripped immediately, otherwise he will keep holding the WBC belt hostage until he retires...
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz never had any intention of stepping into a ring with Wilder without taking banned substances.

    Should have saved us all the bother and just said, 'Nah, I'm not getting in the ring with that killer without a knife, a gun or 'roided to the gills."
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've got a crazy idea. How about every time he signs to fight a legit opponent, the legit opponent doesn't take DRUGS THAT EVERYONE KNOWS ARE BANNED?

    That way, the fight can go on ... and Wilder's "plans" will all be thwarted.

    See, it's really easy to trick Wilder.

    All you have to do IS NOT CHEAT. Then, he has to fight you.

    You guys come up with all this freaking nonsense, and you leave out the part about his opponents CHEATING.

    If they didn't cheat, the fights happen.

    But they cheat. Because they can't go thru camp and fight him clean, for some reason.

    I wonder why they know there is a great chance they'll be caught, BUT THEY CHEAT ANYWAY? They are willing to put up with the shame of getting caught just so they can take their PEDs, when all they have to do is NOT TAKE THEM.

    Maybe it's because they don't believe they can beat Deontay Wilder WITHOUT CHEATING?

    Ever thought of that? Of course not.

    Instead, you want us to believe Wilder is 10 STEPS AHEAD OF EVERYONE ELSE in the strategic thinking department.

    When the truth is the Wilder-Povetkin and Wilder-Ortiz fights happen if Wilder's opponents DON'T CHEAT.

    Weird how his BRILLIANT strategies can all be ruined if people just don't cheat.
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz is the one who got busted, and you come to this conclusion? Are you more stupid or ignorant?
     
  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol I just know the stick you gonna get for suggesting this but I honestly think you're right,loads predicted this didn't they and what alerted me was how Wilder at the pressers kept on saying stay clean Ortiz,stay clean.
    What a ridiculous thing to say to any opponent but in this case it's all part of the psy op,just one fight away from AJ with a massive pay day on the line for everyone involved,Wilder and his team have picked road sweepers and bums with zero power for 38 fights so why on earth would they change now,doesn't make sense unless it was a forced mandatory.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True enough and if there was no corruption in boxing it would be so clear cut but it's gotten to the point where folk don't know who or what to believe anymore.
     
  7. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    another quality opponent scrapped

    ha

    you cant make this s--- up
     
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  8. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Do you think Wilder will have balls to fight Ortiz's doctor instead? :ggg
     
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  9. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    hes old enough

    but he needs to put on

    another 200 pounds

    ha
     
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Its always Wilders opponent Once OK but two in a row ??
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Wilder needs to be stripped, the game is up. He has absolutely no intention of fighting any top ranked heavyweights who have the capability of rendering him unconscious.

    He's making a mockery of the sport.
     
  12. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    thank you:biggrin:
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, it's time they strip him for not fighting a guy taking banned drugs and mandate a Stiverne-Whyte fight for the vacant title.

    Here here.

    You should be running the WBC.
     
  14. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm lost.... was Ortiz caught with some form of PED in his system or something to treat high BP? I understand banning EPOs, steroids and HGH but Hypertension meds should be allowed.
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Wilder is the common denominator in this equation and it obvious what is happening.

    Only a fanboy will remain willfully ignorant to the game being played here by Wilder and his team

    37 fights and not a single name on his record and every time he steps up to fight a credible opponent, they get done for roids and Wilder attempts to look like the good hero who did all he could to fight were it not for cheating.

    He's a fraud and needs to be stripped simply because he is not serious about fighting.