Where does power come from?

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Golovkin is heavy handed but his power in terms of 1 punch power is imo vastly overrated. Couldnt put brook on the floor, hit canelo and jacobs(on the tip of the chin with jacobs, blind spot/temple with canelo) with pretty much the perfect overhand right and couldnt seriously hurt either one with that shot. Kovalev, jackson, mcclellan, rjj or hearns hit someone with their best shot....that guy is in BIG trouble at the very least. GGG is more like a chavez sr or cotto at 140/147 type heavy handed accumulation puncher.

    2. Again GGGs shoulder snap is good technique but malignaggi with the same technique probably still wouldnt be a puncher and a guy like julian jackson would put canelo or jacobs to sleep with a punch as pretty as the jacobs "knockdown"

    There has got to be some type of physical common denominator between the heavy hitters, yet they come in different shapes and sizes. And power comes in different forms too, heavy handed vs snappy
     
  2. Brandon K. Swanson

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    The chest muscles area unit your higher body core muscles. Their most significant functions area unit to attach your shoulders, arms, and lets into one combined force. They additionally generate the foremost punching power out of your higher body muscles.
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Exactly. Surprised that people can't grasp this. If one-punch ko power were simply a matter of perfecting the right punching mechanics, damn near every pro fighter would make the time to learn and perfect it (they'd be fools not to).
     
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  4. Brixton Bomber

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    Spot on.
     
  5. Brixton Bomber

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    Yep. Powerifters and top end weightlifters would be the hardest punchers on earth if it was about muscle.
     
  6. Brixton Bomber

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    Sounds like horse-$hit, in all honesty.
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

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    Look at Anthony Joshua. Walked into a gym at 18 and started BREAKING the pads! That's insane.

    He done that with ZERO experience. So it's clearly genetics, and not anything else.
     
  8. reznick

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    Didn't he also grow up watching boxing?
    Who's to say he wasn't practicing his punching before entering the gym?
     
  9. reznick

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    It's not really something coaches can or try to teach.
    But it is something you can learn. It's too intimate to teach efficiently, as opposed to teaching something like how to throw a jab. But you have stories of people like Benny Leonard who started out feather fisted, but suddenly started punching like a sledgehammer one day and never went back.

    Personally I believe you have to really want it.
    And if you do, you'll eventually explore your body mechanics enough to figure it out.

    Or perhaps you are indeed born with it.
    And the user has a bias of perceiving it as a learned ability, since they went through its development. Or maybe some people are born "primed" for getting power out of certain techniques. Hard to tell when nobody has ever controlled more than one body to compare.
     
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  10. Brixton Bomber

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    Breaking a pad is a VERY uncommon thing.

    You simply DO NOT do such a thing by watching youtube tutorials.
     
  11. reznick

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    I agree.
    Not sure how many people are going to learn explosive power watching youtube tutorials.

    Doesn't mean he wasn't trying to learn how to punch like a truck in his bedroom while watching highlights of Foreman. Who knows, we don't know what his process was.
     
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  12. Brixton Bomber

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    True. But unless you have a big heavy bag in your room, where is the resistance coming from? You can't develop punching power by hitting fresh air.

    Technique? Sure, you can learn that from videos. But power is a different thing altogether.
     
  13. reznick

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    Of course you can.
    The resistance is your own body, or gravity, which at a certain point prevents your momentum from progressing.

    Stand up.
    Punch hard.
    Now punch harder. See? You can punch harder.
    If you keep trying to outdo your last punch in terms of power, you might be surprised at how far you can go. You don't need a heavybag for that.
     
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  14. Brixton Bomber

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    Bud, are you trying to say that if you keep using heavier bags you won't punch harder?

    It's the same people who think they are strong because they do a ton of bodyweight stuff for S&C. There is NO resistance, hence not being as strong as you can be if you lifted weights.

    If you hit fresh air as hard as possible every day, and I hit heavy bags every day and kept using heavier bags, I'd have a harder shot than you. Hit a heavy bag that is HEAVY, and it will be hard. Keep doing it and it gets easier, therefore your power will go up.

    All about resistance. Always. This isn't even up for debate.

    I love your posts, but when you talk about shoulder snap and stuff like this, you're talking about it in guys who are GENETICALLY GIFTED punchers, like Foreman and GGG. Please, let's move on.
     
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  15. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Depends.

    If you're fighting in black and white then power comes from atrocious punch mechanics and someone's grandpa's opinion. Add in a Ray Arcel stamp of approval and you're golden.

    If you're fighting in colour then power comes from a giant bag of steroids.
     
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