Where does power come from?

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  1. Brixton Bomber

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    Lol!
     
  2. Mr.DagoWop

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    Not the history section!
     
  3. Mr.DagoWop

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    No not at all. Lifting weights doesn't in any way shape or form translate to punching power. Every guy I sparred with that lifted weights couldn't crack an egg with their punches.

    That's the truth. If you want to build BOXING SPECIFIC strength then hit the bag 3x per week and develop good stamina because once you are tired it doesn't matter if you can squat a house, that strength is absolutely gone.
     
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    Hitting the bag with good technique will build up the shoulders and back immensely. The chest gets worked too but not as much as the others mentioned.
     
  5. Contro

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    Im not talking about training. Im asking what genetic trait it is that punchers have in common. Bodybuilders punch like girls because they mostly lift weights slowly and train their muscles in an unathletic way. A proper strength and conditioning program will NOT hurt your punching power.
    Anyway the question wasnt about technique or training. Everyone who has spent 2 weeks in a boxing gym knows how throw a good punch. Im asking if there is a common PHYSICAL trait that all the big punchers have in common? My guess is no because you cant tell if someone hits well just by looking at them
     
  6. Mr.DagoWop

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    What are you talking about? Bodyweight exercises do provide resistance. It's called your bodyweight.

    Strength is subjective in terms of how it is measured. If we have a calisthenics contest then the calisthenics guy seems strong. If we have a weight lifting contest then the lifter seems strong.
     
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  7. Contro

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    Yes but you can get better at calesthenics by increasing the repetitions. For example going from 10 chinups to being able to do 20 chinups after a while. Thats an increase. Or you can go from pressing 150 to pressing 200 pounds. But you cannot progress/increase your power from hitting the air/shadowboxing you need resistance as in a heavybag
     
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    You were talking about power in a sports science definition. Hence why you asked

    My answer to that, simply put, was no.

    From what I noticed about big punchers they usually have well rounded shoulders and a strong thick back.
     
  9. Mr.DagoWop

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    I never said you couldn't.
     
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  10. Contro

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    Yeah thats what ive noticed too. The part about power in different sports was just an"intro" to the question i guess.
     
  11. reznick

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    No.
    Heavybags will build up your strength and muscles in the places that count. And will help you with your technique to increase your power output. But it will not be the reason that you become a really hard puncher.

    If you hit a heavybag every day while I hit the air, you might increase the power output of your pre-existing techniques. But I have a better chance to make serious leaps in my power. Because you need the freedom of no resistance to explore your mechanics enough to make serious leaps in your power delivery.

    To think you need a heavybag to increase your power is absolute BS.
    And due to personal experience I would never be able to agree with that.
    It'll refine your power and strength, but it won't turn you into a mule kick puncher.
    Like I said, try shadow boxing, and keep trying to punch harder than your last punch. What's stopping you? The absence of a heavybag? No.
     
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    They might know how to move their arm in the proper motion that resembles a hook, jab, or uppercut.
    But they don't know how to generate maximum power for the punch.
    Most boxers don't learn that in their lifetime, let alone two weeks.
     
  13. reznick

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    100% untrue.
     
  14. Contro

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    I think once you have the technique down a bag is really more helpful than shadowboxing FOR POWER. Obviously shadpwboxing has a place in training and most boxers do both. But tbh if you dont have the genetics then you wont become a knockout artist at the professional level no matter how much you work on your technique. Dont you think a guy like malignaggi would have tried every trick in the book to become a better puncher? It only works to an extent
     
  15. reznick

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    I agree with your first sentence. Even if you work on power techniques shadow boxing, eventually you need to refine it on the bag.

    Malinaggi grew up watching Mayweather tapes.
    He never cared about power. Which manifested in his style.
    Most people don't become really hard punchers because either they don't care to, they think they are incapable of becoming one, or they just never considered it. There are a lot of other aspects of boxing worth mastering besides power. And not everyone needs to make it a big focus of theirs.
     
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