Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

201 pounds 1966-05-21 (prime Ali): [url]http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Henry_Cooper_(2nd_meeting)[/url]

Lewis was 6"4'1/2 or 3/4

 

Ali changed his weight for different fighters but in the main was 210 to 215 like I said before even at 201 he would beat josh that was the lightest ever for a title fight of his and Lewis was 6ft 5 and 245 but so what if he was 6ft 4 or 6ft 5 have you not been given enough information to have learned nothing about size and weight at heavyweight. here we go again according to you foreman was practically same size as ali (small) 6ft 3 and 220 but another so called midget larry holmes 6ft 3 210 pounds took care of 6ft 6 Gerry cooney it doesn't matter about size of opponent if you are perfect size for a heavyweight 6ft3 and 210 ish if you have skill and can fight. Ps if you could post a tale of tape with Lewis at 6ft 4 I will send you a lot more at 6ft 5 and ali at over 210 pounds it even says on wiki ali is 107kg are you sure josh isn't only 6ft4 or 6ft 3 and 1/2 there seams to be a lot of conflicting stats about, who do you believe lol in other words it irrelivent

 

Joshua actually batters him into a pulp.

 

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You should know that fighters or promoters exagerate their height.

Tyson was billed at 5 11 1/2
But then admitted his prime height to be 5 10 1/2. And the same goes for the majority...

Ali were billed at 6 2 in his early career. But then suddenly he became 6'3...

His own trainer sad he was 6"2 And he was measuredon his passport to be 6"2 1/2 thus 6"2 flatfooted....

 

Yep,this match up is ridiculous really. Its always a good laugh to see its still going and always worth a chuckle looking at some of these posters and reasons they give or DONT actually give for an Ali win here.

Notice how also everyone had ducked my ( ALI WAS SAVED BY THE BELL IN HIS 19th FIGHT TO 180 POUNDER ) Yet want to somehow give twilight zone points that make Ali a super Hero and Joshua a unproven bum who is overatted? Gotta love this stuff!

 

You couldn't have enlightment if it fell out of the sky and hit you directly on your head.

We know this bc your main argument was stamina .Not knowing stamina is something you get from experiance n the ring with more fights..hence the more fights you go and rounds you do the more you get accustomed to going longer...boxing 101.


Joshua has only been past 7 rnds ONCE, he was 250 pounds his heaviest weight and averaged 3 rnd fights with ONLY 18 fights leading up to Klitchko . One does not have bad stamina doing this when he gets a k.o win against such an opponent and in the 11th rnd.

Not to mention high punch out put in that fight and getting hit hard( which takes stamina out of you,again boxing 101) And getting up from a knock down and having to get a second wind after...NO ONE with bad or poor stamina does that.

I cant beleive people are really this dense! and if we wanted to actually look at stamina we could always see Ali on his stool breathing heavy almost always cant we? A fighter like Joshua will not let this fight go 12 and ali would be in major trouble .

You even use the what if card and make a fantasy Ali bc he was banned from boxing????? You judge fighters on fights fought not what you like to think. Joshua even at 19 fights would be far superior to anyone ali had ever fought or could in the 60's or 70's. Any logical person would see this.

On the fight itself,Ali running around the ring and not being able to press Joshua or hurt him with power is NOT going to do anything to Joshuas stamina anyway is it? Im not going to keep breaking this down bc any one who actually wants credible info will just go to the beginning of this thread and read onward where my detailed posts are...the end!

If they like outlandish ones where Ali stands on his toes and becomes 6'5 and blah blah blah..they can read yours. At least you didn't give him wings where he could swoop around his opponents from above effortlessly and so on... .

 

Joshua is very stiff and is a sucker for counters. The little bit of mobility Wlad had left and his counters were giving Joshua a lot of problems. The moment Joshua started to gas Ali would take him out.

Ali at 224lbs vs Bugner 6'4" 230lb

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Ali at 223lbs vs. Wepner 6'5" 223 lbs

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Ali at 227lbs vs. Mathis 6'3" 256lbs

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Joshua 245lbs vs. Whyte 6'4" 247lbs

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Joshua 250lbs vs. Wlad 6'6" 240lbs

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Wlad was more mobile in that Joshua fight than any he had ever fought? ...Joshua IS a counter puncher.You obviously dont know what you are talking about and are watching high lite clips when anyone who watches ENTIRE fights can see who would win this. lol

And the closest fighter to an ACTUAL Ali ,being hes an outside jabber and likes to clinch and hit that Joshua faced would be Pulev his next fight( even though pulev is 6'5 and 250 pounds) ..lets see how that one goes? I cant say klitchko because hes a 6'6 power puncher,who is more dangerous than Ali ever could be. Your actually showing Joe Bugner and CHUCK WEPNER in comparison to Joshua and in his 15th fight which also tells me your drinking,you must be?

 

Pulev has limited mobility and no upperbody movement. Pulev also has a very limited boxing IQ. Ali would never fall for the same left hook over and over again. When Joshua fights somebody with mobility and skills that isn't over 40 I might change my opinion, but until then I can see why Hearn didn't want Joshua to fight Ortiz or Wilder, who are both way more dangerous than Wlad.

Also Bugner and Wepner are more proven than anyone on Joshua's resume except Wlad and even Wlad himself in his prime was destroyed by lesser men than Ali. Joshua with his stamina problems and lack of upper body movement would get countered by Ali all day.

 

Ali clowns Joshua

 

Which is why i said the closest thing to Ali.Pulev brings the jab and clinch game like Ali. Joshua hasnt fought anyone like Ali bc there no 210 pounders who run around the ring,so? What person of that caliber would defeat Joshua even with power? One could just look at the 210 pound Haye /Klitchko fight in what was a losing battle from the opening bell.

Wilder and southpaw Ortiz whos OLDER than Wlad in reality? More dangerous than Wlad ? Yea sure they are!

 

Are you blind whyte is 6 ft 3 and a half and a right lard arse he looks like Tony tubs at 240 lbs if he was in shape he would be no more than 225 and I said he also hadn’t the speed , skill and chin, and heart or the brain read my posts properly please