A critical analysis of Jeffries vs Ruhlin

Having a cauliflower ear, scar tissue over both eyes, and your nose broken three times does!
You don't get a reputation for great durability and chin unless you are hit often! You say you can tell Jeffries has offensive capabilities ie that left hook but when we point out his defensive faults you say they cant be determined from the film.Get real here!
Read the write ups of the first Corbett fight and the second Fitzsimmons fight, Jeffries is described as looking like a novice in their hands and Fitz is described as being able to him where and when he pleases! This was a defending champion, he was easy to hit, Corbett busted up his nose and mouth and he looked like a f*cking Gargoyle after the second Fitz fight! Little Choynski smashed his top lip through his teeth so far it had to be scissored free! Crude Sharkey had no trouble landing on him and he was just a wild swinger.

 

Disagree. Defensive capabilities in those days involved the finer points of the game, nuances. Nuances are not what one can readily pick up watched a herky jerky faded 116 year old film. Double and triple left hooks stand out and can be readily and in this case obviously seen.

No one is saying Jeffries was a defensive master. Getting belted around by ATG such as Corbett and Fitzsimmons and a very known quantity such as Choynski is to be expected. Coming back to win as Jeffries did vs top competition after being outboxed and beaten to hell is a sign of an ATG fighter.

 

You're saying he wasn't easy to hit and I'm saying he was, and reports of his fights confirm it!
Being beaten to hell by a 39years old man coming out of a 2 years retirement is the sign of a fighter with glaring defensive deficiences!
Nuances be damned he carried his hands low, had zero head movement and walked in a straight line ,no bobbing, no weaving ,no glove movement/rotation, he is as predictable as the moon coming out at night!
Ruhlin looks better,quicker and more skilled. ! If he had the grit and durability Jeffries had it might have been a different fight.

 

His defensive was very lacking. We know this from reports and the video we do have. He's slightly harder to hit than a punching bag.

 

Certainly does not as the film footage in no way allows one to determine the power of any punch. Those hooks to the body appear as pitter patter but obviously they were enough to drop Ruhlin. Many say fighters in those days did not even throw combinations. Those doubled and tripled hooks thrown in 1901 are strong testament that that statement is completely untrue.

No one is saying Jeffries had a great defense.

 

He was a punching bag plain and simple. Please stop with this triple left hook nonsense. I've seen Butterbean throw a better triple left hook than this.

 

TBI ...the ridiculous videos you have posted is everything anyone would want to know about how little you know about the sport. They are neither amusing or informative. You sound like a 15 year old trying to make sense. I'll spend 2 minutes educating you further although it's a waste of time. One can see Jeffries throwing combinations some on here for months stated he was not throwing. Double and triple left hooks. You cannot tell with 116 year old film the power of those punches. However one body blow was hard enough to knock Ruhlin down. In terms of defense it's a different story as the very poor nature of the film eliminates the Nuances that were the defensive techniques of the day. Jeffries was no defensive expert although he was known for ducking blows and stepping away to his right. There are training videos of Jeffries where he is practicing this maneuver.

You can watch Foreman in modern full color up close videos from his prime exhibited frightening power. I watched Foreman from 15 feet away spar, hit the heavy bag. (Also watched Ali, Frazier, Shavers and many others). No fighter I have ever watched hit as hard as Foreman. Vitali at no time in his career exhibited that level of power.

Now why not make another video that's nether amusing nor informative.

 

How come you think those hooks don't have anything on them?

 

Why even question this guy? His very lame videos show he is a beginner, a cold really, in terms of this sport.

 

TBI.....suggest to lay off the videos. Neither amusing or informative! All you show us your lack of any knowledge whatsoever concerning this sport.