If Floyd Won His Fights Doing The Moonwalk, Why Can't Canelo?

Plus Cotto came at him with educated pressure at times, which Floyd don't like. I think size/weight wise they were well matched

 

Seriously?

Chavez threw 302 punches all night and did his best punchbag impression while Canelo threw 604.

Golovkin threw 703 to Canelo's 505. That's more than twice what Chavez threw. I'd say that the incoming was a major factor why Canelo's punchrate and stamina was down.

 

Because Floyd pretends everything hit his shoulder

 

That was of course a factor, both having to deal with G's incoming punches and that he was throwing bigger punches himself than what he threw vs Chavez. He didn't really try to hurt Chavez, he was just content to outbox him for 12 rounds. Vs G, Canelo was throwing and landing much bigger punches, which was surely tiring him out.

Looking at the two fights back to back, he appeared to be much fresher and more energetic vs Chavez than he was vs G. Not to take anything way from what G was doing that caused him to tire, but looking at how Canelo stood between rounds for the entire Chavez fight, he just seemed to have an unlimited amount of energy vs Chavez. Vs G he just didn't seem to have that unlimited energy, and had to conserve energy more and was a little winded at times. Much of that surely had to do with fighting G, and I made the observation that G also looked fatigued as well. I mean look at those shots of G in the corner. He was breathing hard, looking red, bending over and hocking loogies in between rounds.

It was a grueling fight for both men, but I was just making the observation that Canelo just looked fresher and more energic vs Chavez than he did vs G. Of course G had a lot to with that, but it may have had more to do with Canelo's preparation, something different, maybe having to make 160 after only having to make 164.5, a lot of factors may have contributed.

 

Maybe the 164.5 weight suits Canelo better; it could even be that.

If I were in Canelo's corner I would tell him to stay centre ring. He did much better centre ring and here's food for thought: by moving around on the periphery the whole time, Saul was covering probably three times the distance GGG was, who had the interior lines of movement. It's not going to help his stamina if he's constantly travelling further.

 

Well on the one hand, he was praised by some for his footwork vs G. A lot of people made the argument going into the bout that Canelo didn't have great footwork or wasn't quick enough on his feet to use movement like a Jacobs. The ironic part is while he did seem more winded vs G (as opposed to vs Chavez) I didn't get the sense that it was because of how much he was moving. I think a lot of people were surprised at how well Canelo moved and how good his footwork was. I mean, I can tell you personally I didn't expect Canelo to use that much movement, but I don't think that's what made him tired. I think what made him tired during the bout was primarily that he was throwing and landing more big punches, since he had a hand speed advantage on G. I mean, when he fought guys like Lara and Floyd, they had longer reaches, and faster hands and (in the case of Floyd) more upper body and head movement. So I just think that Canelo thought that he could use his footwork more. I don't think Canelo fought the perfect fight or anything, but I just don't think the movement made him more tired, becuase really that was used to help him get his energy back up after exchanges so he could set up more big punches. You do make an interesting point though about G having the interior lines of movement, but of course G had to react to Canelo's movement which I don't think he was too comfortable with. We know that one way to neutralize a pressure fighter is by movement, Canelo did show that he had better footwork than many realized. I personally expected canelo to try to get inside more (ducking the jab, etc) as I think he's a better inside fighter than G. But he chose to stay outside for the most part and land punches that way. Both strategies have their advantages.

 

I was one of them, and to be fair Canelo never gave an indication that he would be able to move around the ring so well going into the fight. But his footwork has improved vastly, he's a much more complete fighter now than he was. Credit given.

Canelo has always gotten tired halfway into a fight. This fight was fought at a higher pace than most of his fights and I don't think that the extra muscle helped with his cardio. That said, he came back well in 10-12 so it could also be that he's more comfortable at 160 physically than he was at 154.

My opinion is also that he should stand toe to toe with Golovkin and turn it into an inside fight. It's clear that fighting at a distance doesn't favour him. Take the leverage off GGG's shots and light him up with short punches. Canelo has proved that he has the chin to take Golovkin's shots; what's he got to lose? You can bet that Sanchez will get GGG to push the pace right from the start in an effort to get Canelo tired faster in the rematch. The same plan for Canelo is going to fail.

 

Canelo is not a true middle weight. He is a welterweight 155 max fighter and he is a masive eater loves food but doesn't like to take off the weight. it takes him to long to lose it. He walks around at 200 pounds then has to lose all that weight just to make 160. Thats why the early training camp. But he can fight at middle weight cause hes a big kid, he just puts on to much weight and then tries to lose it to fast cause he is not a 200 poung man body wise. He is just a masive eater and what makes it worse he eats Mexican food that is high in lard, when with his money he should be eating healthy as hell and only eating Mexican food twice a week.

Canelo walks around at 200-plus pounds and then comes in at 160 for the weight-in and after that eats so much and puts on so much weight, that his body cant fully ajust to, it in that small amount of time.

If Canelo didn't eat like a pig and walked around at his true weight witch is like 160-170 and stayed in the jim only had to lose 10-20 pounds he would be just fine, after the weigh-in and in the fight cause he wouldn't be eating extra food and drinking so much water and he wouldnt be sluggish and slow heavy loking in the ring and his legs would be just fine. But he is hard headed and likes to eat to much like Hatton.

Canelo Walks Around at 200 http://www.*******.com/mcguigan-khan-very-ballsy-canelo-walks-around-200--101107
A man that is 5/9 in height who is a profesanel boxer should not be walking around at 200-plus pounds. Then trying to lose 50 plus pounds in 2 months. Then putting on 20 pounds in 1 day, it's not necessary or normal for him to do that and not Healthy.

 

Floyd doesn't let his opponent outland him by twice the punches! Floyd has fought on the backfoot his entire career, he was never a power puncher. He's a boxer, slick counter puncher. Canelo has always fought going forward, but GGG made him change his own style, obvioulsy canelo was scared of getting KO'd. GGG certainly wasn't worried about that and gave fans exactly what they expected from him. This fight reminded me just a bit of Oscar vs Tito. Oscar was known for being a boxer/puncher, not going backwards that often, but vs Tito he totally got on his backfoot. But he boxed beautifully, outlanded Tito by 100 punches and really took no damage or any clean hard shots the entire fight. YET, Trinidad was given the W, obvioulsy majorly credited for coming forward. Yet GGG does this, outlands canelo by a landslide, and now judges don't want to credit the guy going forward AND landing more? Boxing is truly messed.

 

Doing moonwalk? Oh, doing the moonwalk and still landing 2:1 against elite opposition? Cool story. Will read again.

 

Not true against many opponents he faced; Gerena, Ndou, Corley, Judah, Mosley, Cotto, Maidana I...

 

Cause when Canelo does his "defense" he doesn't land as many punches because of it. He is just dodging, not slipping and countering.

 

Please, don't ever compare Floyd's defensive skills and Canelo's defensive skills in the same sentence for god sake...

 

Because Canelo doesn't have the stamina of Floyd? Pretty simple answer. Canelo will never beat GGG going backwards. Ever. Gotta come forward and use legs less. He doesn't have that kind of stamina.

 

doing the moonwalk?
sounds like someones bitter they lost money betting against Floyd.