Do people here honestly think that defense wins you points in boxing?

"All that matters is how many good clean punches land.""

Right.

And if you have a great defense, your opponent won't land many good, clean punches. While your great, proactive defense will put you in a position to hit and not get hit.

Your question doesn't really make sense. It's a bit like saying 'does anyone really use the left leg when walking?'

 

Canelo wasn't in survival mode at any point, he was implementing a gameplan that involved movement because ggg struggles with movement as Jacobs clearly exposed. Doing that gameplan took a toll on Canelo's stamina or he wins this fight going away. If you can't distinguish between deliberately going on the backfoot (and inviting the opponent to close distance and create offense) from running/surviving, time to stop watching boxing right now.

 

It's also because he lacks the stamina to fight 12 hard rounds Sherlock. It's why he fights largely in spots. Again, when you're giving Jacobs 9-10 rounds against him you shouldn't questioning anyone's credibility.

 

Evading punches isnt exactly looked at and it shouldnt be.You could dodge 9 out of 10 of my punches ,if you didnt land one punch who won the round?

Its what connects not how many punches you didnt get hit with. Punches are what count...clean punches are obviously going to influence the fight,bc thats more important. If someone has superior defense its the ability to avoid punches and countering them with your own punches...that is true defense,thers more to it than just not getting hit,you still have to score your own punches to win a fight.

 

Precisely. These guys don't want to admit it.

 

Lmao. Where did I say easy? Look, this is a damage control thread period. You owned yourself when you said clean punching. G made Canelo look like a defensive genius. Lampley doesn't sit here and say G is magically "deteriorating" without reason. You clowns need to get your make believe in check.

 

I don't have a full hour to commit to watching this just yet, in a distraction-free environment to give it the attention it deserves (probably won't for another week or so) but is there a highlights video showing Canelo making Golovkin miss as much as people are making it sound? Golovkin is generally pretty accurate, while Canelo isn't somebody I really think of as slick at the elite level. I mean when he fought Rhodes, sure, he was the slickest cat in the ring, but it's just really hard for me to separate the image of Canelo getting absolutely clowned as the ineffective aggressor by the likes of Mayweather, Trout and Lara so for him to suddenly be in that opposite role is just mind-boggling to me.

 

Exactly IB. How tf is Canelo looking like Floyd and Rigo. I ask myself the same question. Exhibit A and B Pacquiaotard style with sound effects, slo-mo and all lol

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Second video the guy admits to tallying punches that don't necessarily land but still contact for both fighters just to give each benefit of the doubt. Judge with your own eyes.

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Just to settle this matter:

Effective defense is worth at least as many points (that is, points in the sense of abstract computational factors helping in adjudicating the action in a round, not points as in the integers themselves assigned to winners and losers of each round under the nominal "10 point must" system), as is "coming forward". Chew on that.

 

Sorry if that is too esoteric and hipster-y for bandeedo & his ilk.



...I can only be me!

 

LMAO, the salty tears from haters is satisfying.

 

Like people have said here, people take sides based on who their favorite fighter is. The guys who like offensive fighters look at defense and say it's "boring" but look at most sports, defense wins championships. So many nuthuggers trying to defend their fondness for offense. If you want pure offense watch novice boxers. They think offense is everything. Those of us who understand boxing know mastery of the science goes far beyond punching power.

I'll take fighters like Rigo, Loma, Mayweather (PBF version), Whittaker, Ali over the likes of Walters, Donaire, GGG, Kovalev, Tyson, Foreman ...