Conn Of The 1st Louis Fight v Marciano,Frazier,Tyson?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, Oct 5, 2017.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,594
    28,854
    Jun 2, 2006
    Billy Conn of the first Louis fight against,three come forward punchers.
    Prime versions of:
    Rocky Marciano,Joe Frazier,& Mike Tyson.15rds
    Could Conn win any of these? Would he?
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,558
    May 4, 2017
    Tyson would be far too big and had the hand speed of a light heavy, Conn would stand a better chance against the other two because they weren`t as good at throwing combo`s as Mike, he and Louis were great combo punchers. I feel Marciano and Frazier would apply to much pressure and throw too many punches for the smaller Conn but he would do a lot better against Frazier than Foster if he didn`t stand in front of Joe the way he did with Louis at times. Foster couldn`t move defensively as good as Conn nor as quick.
     
  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,436
    2,839
    Feb 18, 2012
    All 3 would knock him out quicker than Louis managed IMO.
     
  4. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,298
    4,629
    May 13, 2014
    All 3 stop him. Joe wasnt the kind of pressure fighter these guys were, and wasn't a Top Class ring cutter like them. All have the power to finish him at any time.

    Tyson stops him early, Marciano stops him by round 8, Frazier finishes him before 15.
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,075
    8,462
    Jul 17, 2009

    Conn's skills would cause all of them problems in the early going but I can't see him keeping them off for 15 rounds. All would beat Billy inside the distance -

    Tyson early/middle

    Marciano & Frazier - Middle/late
     
    RockyJim and mcvey like this.
  6. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

    1,033
    906
    Sep 11, 2017
    I agree with all of the above. He'd give them trouble early on but would end up being stopped by all three.
     
    RockyJim likes this.
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,594
    28,854
    Jun 2, 2006
    I think Frazier with his faster attack would get to him before Rocky.
     
  8. Ronnie Raygun

    Ronnie Raygun Active Member banned Full Member

    734
    343
    Aug 20, 2017
    Marcino ko in 2
    Fraizer ko in 1 rd
    Conn wouldn't have left the dressing room to fight Tyson
    Tyson by fear before the fight.
     
    sasto and InMemoryofJakeLamotta like this.
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,594
    28,854
    Jun 2, 2006
    One thing Conn never lacked was courage, he turned pro without any amateur experience,and fought plenty of tough dudes, often conceding weight.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,496
    27,021
    Feb 15, 2006
    Nobody is ever intimidating Conn.
     
  11. Ronnie Raygun

    Ronnie Raygun Active Member banned Full Member

    734
    343
    Aug 20, 2017
    Once Mike hits Conn he will be intimidated
    I can see it now once Conn gets hit Damn he hits harder then Joe Louis !!!!!!! lord help me !!!!! .
     
  12. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,298
    4,629
    May 13, 2014
    But Frazier was far more predictable than rocky was, and wasn't as great a two fisted puncher as rocky. Frazier will get him when Conn's legs wear out and (T)KO him. Frazier was also a notorious slow starter.
     
  13. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,714
    3,453
    Jan 6, 2007
    Concur. Conn at 168lbs just too small...(even with all his "Irish")
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta likes this.
  14. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    2,047
    1,594
    Apr 9, 2017
    I'm frankly not convinced Tyson hits any harder than Louis. (He might, but it's far from obvious.)
    I suspect the bigger difference lies in Tyson's footwork. He'll move in more quickly than Louis, but he'll also be more vulnerable to getting caught and countered. (I don't care what anyone says, Tyson is not the technician Louis is.) On the other hand, Tyson very likely has a better chin than Louis and can afford to eat more punches.

    I think Conn has a decent chance to survive the early rounds, take potshots from his bicycle all night and squeak out an ugly UD that's booed by the crowd.
    But of course he might not do all that much better than Ricardo Spain...
     
  15. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,343
    1,527
    Apr 26, 2015
    Are these fighters on there best night or an off night as Louis was in fight one? Louis at his best also stops Conn early.
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.