Wilder-Ortiz officially cancelled; Wilder will face Stiverne instead

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I predicted this was going to happen way before this crap happened. Wilder wanted to look good signing a contract with Ortiz, knowing full well that Ortiz would be framed, VADA would find something, so it was blood pressure medicine. He did not take a PED! If Ortiz were to have signed to fight Joshua the fight would have gone on, but VADA is going to destroy boxing and the WBC is corrupt as it gets. How in the hell did Stiverne get mandatory anyway? He did nothing but be inactive, get fat, old, over the hill and that was in his prime! Povetkin was cleared by VADA for the Wilder fight, but the WBC stopped the fight anyway to keep Wilder from getting knocked out. Not one of Wilder's winos from the alley ever tested positive because they were not a threat. Joshua will knock Wilder out, but I doubt if the fight will happen. VADA will probably frame Joshua as well, but Wilder can stay fake champion for many years to come, he never has to fight a legit fighter and that's never. Showtime refuses to show the Wilder/Stiverne joke! Good for them! Let the WBC keep Wilder as their fake champion. I do not recognize Wilder as legit, he has had five voluntary title defenses in a row. The doctor explained it, the meds were not PEDs. So did Conte. This is just an excuse. Wilder is happy now, he can have an easy fight once again.

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  2. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I mean he can only sign the contract what more can he do. You cant blame his for this!
     
  3. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Ok i'm going break from form here and not criticise Wilder and focus my anger on the WBC instead. I mean seriously how on earth, without a lot of backhanders changing hands, is Buffet the mandatory ? He shouldn't even be in the top 15.

    WBC are even more of a joke than WBA (with their regular champ bo****ks) with their not very subtle corruption.

    I hope this turns out to be a bigger flop than Parker-Fury, which is likely but still going some.
     
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  4. Ty577

    Ty577 Member banned Full Member

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    It will definitely be in Vegas,they will point to Hatton Mayweather as a example of time difference.It still held the record ppv numbers on Sky for nearly a decade until May-Pac.Thousands of Brits will travel across the pond,which i'm sure would make Vegas Happy.Showtime would also want it at prime time,And what is the point of Joshua fighting in the US,if it's not Wilder,who is American and the ONLY American threat to Joshua unifying.
     
  5. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    You sure that many fans from the UK would travel to Las Vegas, bearing in mind recent events there?
     
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  6. Hope4Better

    Hope4Better Active Member Full Member

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    LOL member when all yall said Wilder has a glass jaw and stiverne crack it? I wished that was true but all yall was wrong. Or wuz u? Lets see the second attempt...
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Stiverne been getting bashed up in sparring by a 0-0-0 novice pro?

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  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Hard to argue with anything Victor Conte said. WBC and even VADA have no clue what they are doing and the procedures they have are not even correct.
     
  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Stiverne has since been shown to be far more mediocre than the Arreola fights indicated, so he probably loses another wide decision here.

    This said, Wilder's mandible is SO fragile, if Bermane gets a good shot in, he could be the one that exposes the Wilder Fraud.
     
  10. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Does Stiverne get to keep his 700k step aside money on top of the purse he'll get for the Wilder fight? lol

    Boxing is such a joke. :(
     
  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Don King still has pull with the WBC.
     
  12. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Alot of people predicted this was posturing though and it would go down exactly as it did.

    And Povetkin was actually cleared in that instance, Wilder and his team cancelled abruptly without playing it out, they took the first exit available.

    I think people would be more forgiving if Wilder used his ridiculous 5 voluntaries to attempt seeking out some good competition. That run just left a bad taste in everyone's mouths and gave a bad impression.
     
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  13. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    what a joke its so sad now I hope stiverne fails a drug test but if he does wilder will still fight him because he is so ****
     
  14. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Salido vs vargas- someone fails a doping test, fight still on !

    Yakanama vs nery - nery fails test result still stands!

    Stiverne fails test - fight still on nothing to see here

    Povetkin teats under the legal limit - fights off!

    Ortiz gets done for heart meds - fights off.

    Notice a pattern?
     
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    His resume is ****, there's no escaping that.

    Maybe it was posturing on his part, but he never forced PEDs onto anyone so if they'd have tested clean he'd have made the fights surely?