joe calzaghe vs steve collins or nigel benn in 1997?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Chris Eubank said to Calzaghe after he beat him now I know why Collins avoided you! Joe`s punching wasn`t as refined against Chris as it was in later years would Collins have been too much for him at that stage or would it have been how Eubank stated "speed kills" with Joe`s hands peed being too much for the limited Collins. Benn was dreadful at this time vs Collins and I feel Joe would have out hustled him easily! But what about the Benn vs McClellen? He would have applied constant pressure and Joe liked to stand and trade like he did vs Brewer who was a very hard puncher according to some. Who would win these bouts? I feel Benn and Collins were overrated compared to fighters on the level of Calzaghe inlater years.
     
  2. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Super Joe schools them both. Too fast, too much endurance and too smart. Wouldn’t be surprised at a late stoppage either.
     
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  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's no blueprint for Slappy Joe.
     
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  4. robo

    robo Active Member Full Member

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    I'm fairly certain eubank said that calzaghe hit him harder than anyone else. Calzaghe could dig before his hand problems forced him to change his punching style. As for benn and collins i think joe ud's both
     
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  5. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nigel Benn himself said " Joe would've beat all of us, he is by far the best super middle in the world "..Fair play nige, saying it as it is ! The hardest fight imo for Joe would've always been Eubank out of that lot(Benn, Collins, Eubank).
     
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  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe beats them all..............
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he didnt, but he did say he got hit hard, in that fight when he was emergency weight drained as a late stand-in.

    generally the consensus is joe throws fast with volume rather than accuracy, and that in itself dictates that he doesnt hit hard.

    in the fights, prime joe would be even to outpoint collins, though it might well go the other way too. Benn was really out of it by 97 and it seems unfair to pick him, after all we are not matching post prime joe who gets floored by 40somethings with prime benn or benn would knock his head clean off. Prime Benn would probably stop joe late if you could get joe to enter a ring with him.
     
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  8. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    because mikkel Kessler was his best prime opponent after 46 fights....
    check out how many Kessler+ opponents Floyd has on his resume and you'll see the difference between a HOF SMW who never fought the best of his era when it mattered, and a fighter who beat a who's who over half a dozen weight classes and will be compared to the greatest boxers of any era
     
  9. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Prime Benn would off been a bad match up for Calzaghe. Calzaghe was open to right hooks as seen in the Robin Reid fight. Just imagine Benn landing like that on Calzaghe.

    Collins was a solid boxer. He impressed me with his performance against Eubank so I think this fight is a 50/50 scenario
     
  10. robo

    robo Active Member Full Member

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    I've got no problem with anyone taking a prime benn to stop calzaghe but I think calzaghe beats Collins quite handily to be honest. Agree with what you said about calzaghe's volume punching but I think he fought that way because of bad hands and naturally hits quite hard. Either way, you make some good points
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    its a fair cop, robo.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Collins was one of the most underrated fighters of the 90s.... Smart fighter who could adapt in fights - think he would have been a very tough test for a young Calzaghe.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    this is true but we are talking prime calzaghe who beat injured kessler, and lacy, and bika. joes best run there.
     
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  14. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Collins pulled out of the calzaghe fight after getting KOed in sparing with Howard Eastman.I think joe would beat them both in tough fights
     
  15. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Not sure about Joe TBH